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Teeth treatment alone is enough to be very very thankful that we live today vs even a century ago

graemep 2y ago
If you go further back it lot does not get a lot worse, and further back at least some people would have had less tooth decay because of better diets. A century ago is probably pretty close to the worst possible time: starchy diets, relatively cheap pure/refined sugar, but no modern dentistry.
- jader201 2y ago
  > A century ago is probably pretty close to the worst possible time Which may have attributed/motivated the later advancements that were made.
- lifestyleguru 2y ago
  It took me too many unnecessarily drilled and filled teeth by overzealous dentists to realize this. I removed salt-sugar-fat junk food from the diet and care about my teeth. Absolutely nothing happened with them for one decade now. Again... bloody dentists, they abuse so much the fact that you trust them. They treat your teeth as a piece of sandstone until there is nothing to drill into anymore.
- potsandpans 2y ago
  I've read that medieval populations had significant tooth wear due to stone mills depositing stone residue into flour. Im not sure how this stacks against the time period youre referencing, if it was better or worse.
  - inglor_cz 2y ago
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3094918/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3094918/ One of the many articles studying dental health of pre-modern populations. Yeah, it wasn't great. Human teeth aren't really suitable for a long-lived species that eats a lot of carbs.
  - archermarks 2y ago
    Even as far back as ancient Egypt [1]. And they had dentistry too [2]! Any time in history where they milled grains into flour with stone, you can see this pattern. In fact, it can be used to differentiate certain agricultural vs non-agricultural populations in the archaeological record [3]. [1]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19396207/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19396207/ [2]https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.24487 https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.2... [3]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16353225/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16353225/
- Mistletoe 2y ago
  I've always found this guy's stuff fascinating. https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/nutrition-greats/weston-a-price-dds/#gsc.tab=0 https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/nutrition-greats/... Lots of pics here. https://www.ericdavisdental.com/facial-orthotropics-for-your-child/why-raise-unhealthy-children/how-our-ancestors-formed-full-faces-and-straight-teeth/ https://www.ericdavisdental.com/facial-orthotropics-for-your...
- Modified3019 2y ago
  Unfortunately, here in the US, the elderly are often completely without any sort of dental coverage. Which means they can’t afford to do anything besides watch the teeth rot out of their head when problems start showing up, leading to far worse and even more painful and expensive problems.
thefaux 2y ago
North American indigenous people were known to have remarkably good teeth.
- lbourdages 2y ago
  Probably caused by the relatively small amount of carbs in their diet?
  - inglor_cz 2y ago
    I suspect that the Mexica who ate a lot of maize had more cavities.
apple4ever 2y ago
Totally agree. At the same time, we have a lot to go. "Tooth infected? Just drill it out!" which is kinda like "Hand infected? Just chop it off!"
fuzzfactor 2y ago
It's only been about a hundred years since some dental colleges began to embrace the theory that germs might have an effect on their patients.

If you go further back it lot does not get a lot worse, and further back at least some people would have had less tooth decay because of better diets. A century ago is probably pretty close to the worst possible time: starchy diets, relatively cheap pure/refined sugar, but no modern dentistry.

jader201 2y ago
> A century ago is probably pretty close to the worst possible time Which may have attributed/motivated the later advancements that were made.
lifestyleguru 2y ago
It took me too many unnecessarily drilled and filled teeth by overzealous dentists to realize this. I removed salt-sugar-fat junk food from the diet and care about my teeth. Absolutely nothing happened with them for one decade now. Again... bloody dentists, they abuse so much the fact that you trust them. They treat your teeth as a piece of sandstone until there is nothing to drill into anymore.
potsandpans 2y ago
I've read that medieval populations had significant tooth wear due to stone mills depositing stone residue into flour. Im not sure how this stacks against the time period youre referencing, if it was better or worse.
- inglor_cz 2y ago
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3094918/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3094918/ One of the many articles studying dental health of pre-modern populations. Yeah, it wasn't great. Human teeth aren't really suitable for a long-lived species that eats a lot of carbs.
- archermarks 2y ago
  Even as far back as ancient Egypt [1]. And they had dentistry too [2]! Any time in history where they milled grains into flour with stone, you can see this pattern. In fact, it can be used to differentiate certain agricultural vs non-agricultural populations in the archaeological record [3]. [1]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19396207/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19396207/ [2]https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.24487 https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.2... [3]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16353225/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16353225/
Mistletoe 2y ago
I've always found this guy's stuff fascinating. https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/nutrition-greats/weston-a-price-dds/#gsc.tab=0 https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/nutrition-greats/... Lots of pics here. https://www.ericdavisdental.com/facial-orthotropics-for-your-child/why-raise-unhealthy-children/how-our-ancestors-formed-full-faces-and-straight-teeth/ https://www.ericdavisdental.com/facial-orthotropics-for-your...
Modified3019 2y ago
Unfortunately, here in the US, the elderly are often completely without any sort of dental coverage. Which means they can’t afford to do anything besides watch the teeth rot out of their head when problems start showing up, leading to far worse and even more painful and expensive problems.

thefaux 2y ago

North American indigenous people were known to have remarkably good teeth.

lbourdages 2y ago
Probably caused by the relatively small amount of carbs in their diet?
- inglor_cz 2y ago
  I suspect that the Mexica who ate a lot of maize had more cavities.

apple4ever 2y ago

Totally agree. At the same time, we have a lot to go. "Tooth infected? Just drill it out!" which is kinda like "Hand infected? Just chop it off!"

fuzzfactor 2y ago

It's only been about a hundred years since some dental colleges began to embrace the theory that germs might have an effect on their patients.