> once they made sure I wasn't dying I was thrown out into the waiting room and 6 hours later I said f*ck it and went home. Have you been to an "emergency" roo

> once they made sure I wasn't dying I was thrown out into the waiting room and 6 hours later I said f*ck it and went home. Have you been to an "emergency" room in the US? The ones I'm familiar with have those same kind of waiting times. Our healthcare system basically has both the worst aspects of "government" (extremely bureaucratized, top-down command, and no market dynamics) plus the worst aspects of "private" (profit skimming and no democratic accountability). Personally I think we need to start with reform focused on the provider side - like why the fuck can providers just send you a bevy of bills with fraudulent charges, making it your responsibility to sort out? In any other industry, that would be considered plain fraud. But this doesn't mean I'm going to shout down other people's ideas of where they think reform should start by bringing up failures from other systems as some imagined contrast where our system is at all effective.