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It would be nice if the Georgians requested changing country name to Sakartvelo, the local name. It would be longer but less confusing.
by ianburrell 2y ago
It would be nice if the Georgians requested changing country name to Sakartvelo, the local name. It would be longer but less confusing.
- drdec 2y agoRequested of who? I don't think we need to wait around for people to ask us to start calling their country what they call it.
- Polizeiposaune 2y agoPerhaps these folks at the UN: https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/ https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/ who maintain a list of names for countries, with both long form and short form in 6 different languages.
- db48x 2y agoThe Unicode Consortium maintains a similar database, the CLDR, but it covers considerably more than just 6 languages.
- ithkuil 2y agoTürkiye did that a few years ago
- ix101 2y agoI'm curious how people pronounce this when they've never heard it. Do people assume the 'e' is silent as in "eye". For anyone curious it's basically "Turkey-yeah" & the "yeah" is short.
- carlmr 2y agoHow about Turkey-Ye with Ye as in Kanye. I think the vowel sound would be closer.
- nine_k 2y agoCôte d'Ivoire and Burkina Faso instilled their current names as the only acceptable names for a long time. Pretty successfully though.
- mometsi 2y agoTerrible decision. Upper Volta was the coolest country name on Earth. Who wouldn't tremble before the Upper Voltaic Ambassador?
- hfsh 2y agoTrying to get the English name for the country to include a letter that does not exist in English is just the kind of trolling we've grown to expect.
- croisillon 2y agoSorry but where is the list? I needed one in 2021 and ended up building my own out of Wikipedia and common sense but if the UN has one I'd rather use it.
- Polizeiposaune 2y agohttps://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/country https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/country Note the "Download country names" button, and the "Display results in" language toggles.
- croisillon 2y agoah! nice, i really didn't notice it
- boomboomsubban 2y agoWe don't need to wait around, but people are going to treat you differently if you start casually saying "my friend visited Deutschland on holiday." Even Germans will probably think you're doing some sort of bit.
- xhkkffbf 2y agoOr worse, start saying just the country name with a German accent, the way that the pretentious news readers like to pronounce Spanish names with a Spanish accent. But only Spanish names. Not other countries.
- pfdietz 2y agoThat's a nice idea.
- emmelaich 2y agoBut .. it's already Sakartvelo.
- pfdietz 2y agoI mean, it's a nice idea for us to use that name.
- emmelaich 2y agoLike we use 中国 for China or Allemagne for Germany or ??
- danielbln 2y agoDeutschland
- emmelaich 2y agoYes, I was making a little joke :-)
- pfdietz 2y agoI don't think my keyboard handles the first very well (we did switch from spelling the city of "Peking" to "Beijing" though), but for the latter, sure. In some cases name changes are political so I could see there being resistance to going along, if the politics doesn't align.
- jltsiren 2y agoIt would be amusing if they changed the name to Iberia. Which was, after all, the traditional name of the country in Europe.
- anthk 2y agoThe Spaniards and the Portuguese people will be equally pissed, then.
- shiroiushi 2y agoToo bad. They've had many centuries to unite their peninsula into a single country, and didn't do it, so they don't deserve any special consideration for the name "Iberia".
- Someone 2y agoThey got (at least) very close to that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_Union: “The Iberian Union is a historiographical term used to describe the personal union of the Kingdom of Portugal with the Monarchy of Spain, which in turn was itself the dynastic union of the crowns of Castile and Aragon, and of their respective colonial empires, that existed between 1580 and 1640 and brought the entire Iberian Peninsula except Andorra, as well as Portuguese and Spanish overseas possessions, under the Spanish Habsburg monarchs Philip II, Philip III, and Philip IV. The union began after the Portuguese succession crisis of 1580 and the ensuing War of the Portuguese Succession, and lasted until the Portuguese Restoration War, during which the House of Braganza was established as Portugal's new ruling dynasty with the acclamation of John IV as the new king of Portugal.”
- croisillon 2y agoor changing US Georgia to Muscogee?
- Polizeiposaune 2y agoOr perhaps something like Kartvelia in English since, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country)#Names_of_Georgia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country)#Names_of_Geo...: "The Georgian circumfix sa-X-o is a standard geographic construction designating 'the area where X dwell', where X is an ethnonym."
- madcaptenor 2y agoThe family of languages that includes Georgian is the Kartvelian family. So there’s already some precedent for Kartvelia (noun)/Kartvelian (adjective) in English.
- Iwan-Zotow 2y agoKartveli, country to be called Kartveli. Sa is a language prefix