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It’s very easy on iOS to make a backup of your phone including all apps, settings, and data. Either to the cloud to locally to your own storage. What am I missi

It’s very easy on iOS to make a backup of your phone including all apps, settings, and data. Either to the cloud to locally to your own storage. What am I missing?

alwayslikethis 2y ago
You never had chat apps that don't let you back up the chats? How about login tokens, authentications? That counts too. Are you able to roll them back selectively when an app misbehaves?
wombatpm 2y ago
Cloud does not work. If you have an app that is no longer available in the App Store, when you install from a backup you are out of luck because that app can’t be downloaded from the App Store. If you choose to manage your phone from a Mac, then you can save a full backup.
- Reason077 2y ago
  It's not a binary choice: you can do a full local device backup occasionally and still use iCloud. That way you'll have saved copies of old apps available in case they get discontinued on the app store.
password4321 2y ago
FYI for anyone who just needs to backup using a Windows machine (for me: download hundreds/thousands of photos reliably), iMazing has worked well enough.
kjkjadksj 2y ago
Unless something changed I believe on macos it has to back up to the system drive. I paid my $200 premium to get my 1tb drive on my laptop and my ios backups take up like 30% of that outright. In a perfect world I’d have a server that everything gets dumped to but macos and ios do not make that sort of setup very easy. There’s this ios issue. And people report issues with time machine over network. The whole ecosystem is a little screwed up. But yet I want their hardware so here I am dealing with the hoops they make me jump through. Always some poorly documented issue I run into like with their launchd or all the bullshit they make us now deal with for “security”. No issues when I write for work on centos of course, a proper os. What I would do for a macbook that shipped with no os.
- fluidcruft 2y ago
  I was able to relocate the backup via symlink.
inetknght 2y ago
> to the cloud to locally Requires payment for backup of any meaningful size. > locally to your own storage I don't own a mac. I own Linux. How do I backup iOS to my device? How do I restore it?
- akdev1l 2y ago
  From Linux you literally cannot
- threeseed 2y ago
  You can run macOS or Windows inside a VM on Linux.
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    Tecnically yes but slow as hell and you are using a software you are not licensed for in this case.
- tonyedgecombe 2y ago
  >I own Linux. That's the trouble with these niche desktop platforms, people don't write software for them.
  - Cumpiler69 2y ago
    Is windows also niche?
    - tonyedgecombe 2y ago
      You can backup your phone to a Windows machine (using iTunes).
    - prmoustache 2y ago
      I think he meant iOS.
- noprocrasted 2y ago

It’s very easy on iOS to make a backup of your phone including all apps, settings, and data. Either to the cloud to locally to your own storage. What am I missing?

alwayslikethis 2y ago

You never had chat apps that don't let you back up the chats? How about login tokens, authentications? That counts too. Are you able to roll them back selectively when an app misbehaves?

wombatpm 2y ago

Cloud does not work. If you have an app that is no longer available in the App Store, when you install from a backup you are out of luck because that app can’t be downloaded from the App Store. If you choose to manage your phone from a Mac, then you can save a full backup.

Reason077 2y ago
It's not a binary choice: you can do a full local device backup occasionally and still use iCloud. That way you'll have saved copies of old apps available in case they get discontinued on the app store.

password4321 2y ago

FYI for anyone who just needs to backup using a Windows machine (for me: download hundreds/thousands of photos reliably), iMazing has worked well enough.

kjkjadksj 2y ago

Unless something changed I believe on macos it has to back up to the system drive. I paid my $200 premium to get my 1tb drive on my laptop and my ios backups take up like 30% of that outright. In a perfect world I’d have a server that everything gets dumped to but macos and ios do not make that sort of setup very easy. There’s this ios issue. And people report issues with time machine over network. The whole ecosystem is a little screwed up. But yet I want their hardware so here I am dealing with the hoops they make me jump through. Always some poorly documented issue I run into like with their launchd or all the bullshit they make us now deal with for “security”. No issues when I write for work on centos of course, a proper os. What I would do for a macbook that shipped with no os.

fluidcruft 2y ago
I was able to relocate the backup via symlink.

inetknght 2y ago

> to the cloud to locally Requires payment for backup of any meaningful size. > locally to your own storage I don't own a mac. I own Linux. How do I backup iOS to my device? How do I restore it?

akdev1l 2y ago
From Linux you literally cannot
threeseed 2y ago
You can run macOS or Windows inside a VM on Linux.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  Tecnically yes but slow as hell and you are using a software you are not licensed for in this case.
tonyedgecombe 2y ago
>I own Linux. That's the trouble with these niche desktop platforms, people don't write software for them.
- Cumpiler69 2y ago
  Is windows also niche?
  - tonyedgecombe 2y ago
    You can backup your phone to a Windows machine (using iTunes).
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    I think he meant iOS.
noprocrasted 2y ago