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Apple just can’t add features to their OS without breaking existing ones. Probably used Apple Intelligence to QA the OS release. Steve Jobs would be disgusted

by xyst 2y ago

Apple just can’t add features to their OS without breaking existing ones. Probably used Apple Intelligence to QA the OS release. Steve Jobs would be disgusted at what his company has become. “Just works”, my ass

nerflad 2y ago
I understand why you're getting downvoted but I also am in some form of agreement with the sentiment/hope they don't lose sight that they are pretty much keeping the dream of the consumer UNIX vendor alive.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  You don't matter to them. The "What's a computer?" ad shows what they care about. Do what they want and stay on the happy path. Otherwise, you're holding it wrong.
  - anfilt 2y ago
    Oh gawd that commercial... Yea I remember that pretenious commercial and it's end line when she says "What's a computer?", and I was wtf really what your holding is a computer. Sure a computer where the boot loader is locked down to the point you can't even load your own signing keys or side-load, effectively taking away full ownership of the device from the owner, but it's still a computer.
  - nerflad 2y ago
    Desktop linux has some market share in hollywood, I would think that market does matter to them as it did SGI etc.
    - kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
      Apple is sitting on a massive pile of cash but won't dedicate a team to develop their own Unix userland tools. That's how much they care about the underpinnings of MacOS and power users.
      - nerflad 2y ago
        Can't argue with you there, even Windows has a package manager now.
FredPret 2y ago
On the one hand, it looks like they're getting MBA'ed slowly: the product lineup is getting more tangled every year (just try picking an iPad) as they search for more ways to slice and dice the market. On the other hand: they created Apple Silicon in recent years.
- imbnwa 2y ago
  Didn't they originally buy PA Semi while Jobs was on watch?
  - filmgirlcw 2y ago
    Yes. The first A-series designs launched while Jobs was still alive. That said, from what I understand, a lot of the team was hired after. So it’s certainly not an indicator one way or another about the post-Jobs talent/innovation pipeline.
khana 2y ago
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eviks 2y ago
The myth of Jobs would be disgusted, the real guy shipped the same
- tonyedgecombe 2y ago
  Or worse even. Early versions of OS/X were very buggy. I think people look back at that era through rose tinted glasses.
  - dwaite 2y ago
    After all, the marketing message of no new features with Snow Leopard was because of the reputation of Leopard.
rollcat 2y ago
macOS has been in a slow, steady decline for many years. Every major (or even minor) release brings new bugs, that often go unaddressed for months; the yearly mad push for new features leaves no room to fix things. At this point, I've installed an MDM profile to block major updates - planning to stick to 14.x until it's EOL, or only upgrading to an x.7 or x.8 when it's out. I really, really wish someone high up at Apple took a long hard look at OpenBSD release notes <https://www.openbsd.org/76.html https://www.openbsd.org/76.html>, and used that as a compass for planning the next macOS release. But apparently it's more important to chase the trends now.

by xyst 2y ago

nerflad 2y ago

I understand why you're getting downvoted but I also am in some form of agreement with the sentiment/hope they don't lose sight that they are pretty much keeping the dream of the consumer UNIX vendor alive.

kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
You don't matter to them. The "What's a computer?" ad shows what they care about. Do what they want and stay on the happy path. Otherwise, you're holding it wrong.
- anfilt 2y ago
  Oh gawd that commercial... Yea I remember that pretenious commercial and it's end line when she says "What's a computer?", and I was wtf really what your holding is a computer. Sure a computer where the boot loader is locked down to the point you can't even load your own signing keys or side-load, effectively taking away full ownership of the device from the owner, but it's still a computer.
- nerflad 2y ago
  Desktop linux has some market share in hollywood, I would think that market does matter to them as it did SGI etc.
  - kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
    Apple is sitting on a massive pile of cash but won't dedicate a team to develop their own Unix userland tools. That's how much they care about the underpinnings of MacOS and power users.
    - nerflad 2y ago
      Can't argue with you there, even Windows has a package manager now.

FredPret 2y ago

On the one hand, it looks like they're getting MBA'ed slowly: the product lineup is getting more tangled every year (just try picking an iPad) as they search for more ways to slice and dice the market. On the other hand: they created Apple Silicon in recent years.

imbnwa 2y ago
Didn't they originally buy PA Semi while Jobs was on watch?
- filmgirlcw 2y ago
  Yes. The first A-series designs launched while Jobs was still alive. That said, from what I understand, a lot of the team was hired after. So it’s certainly not an indicator one way or another about the post-Jobs talent/innovation pipeline.

khana 2y ago

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eviks 2y ago

The myth of Jobs would be disgusted, the real guy shipped the same

tonyedgecombe 2y ago
Or worse even. Early versions of OS/X were very buggy. I think people look back at that era through rose tinted glasses.
- dwaite 2y ago
  After all, the marketing message of no new features with Snow Leopard was because of the reputation of Leopard.

rollcat 2y ago

macOS has been in a slow, steady decline for many years. Every major (or even minor) release brings new bugs, that often go unaddressed for months; the yearly mad push for new features leaves no room to fix things. At this point, I've installed an MDM profile to block major updates - planning to stick to 14.x until it's EOL, or only upgrading to an x.7 or x.8 when it's out. I really, really wish someone high up at Apple took a long hard look at OpenBSD release notes <https://www.openbsd.org/76.html https://www.openbsd.org/76.html>, and used that as a compass for planning the next macOS release. But apparently it's more important to chase the trends now.