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I mean nobody needs to bother with anecdotes here. chatgpt.com hit 3.7B visits in October and was #8 in worldwide internet traffic. Open AI say they have 300M w

I mean nobody needs to bother with anecdotes here. chatgpt.com hit 3.7B visits in October and was #8 in worldwide internet traffic. Open AI say they have 300M weekly active users and 1B messages per day. The idea that it's some fad with no utility or that the general public knows little about it is at this point laughable. It's the software product with by far the fastest adoption any software product has ever seen. And if people want to lump that in with bitcoin or VR or whatever, shrug, i just don't know what to say.

chipsrafferty 2y ago
That actual isn't evidence at all that the general public knows a lot about it, or even uses it much. It can be a small group of very active users.
- famouswaffles 2y ago
  To put it frankly, not at this scale. I don't know what you think nearly 4B visits per month is (and top ten in worldwide traffic) that "a small group of active users" can generate. 300M active users a week is not a small group and you do not get there without general public awareness.
parineum 2y ago
> I mean nobody needs to bother with anecdotes here. chatgpt.com hit 3.7B visits in October and was #8 in worldwide internet traffic. Open AI say they have 300M weekly active users and 1B messages per day. As far as the "zeitgeist" conversation goes, though, there's one story in the non-tech news about AI right now and it isn't how it's making everyone's life easier. It's, yet again, a story about how someone trusted it and got burned because the markov chain landed on something not true.
darkwater 2y ago
Yes, because it is free. How many paid users? Is a paid user generating profit right now? Google had to inject advertising in its search results to start earning real money. What will OpenAI do? That's the PMF.
- chgs 2y ago
  90% of my use of OpenAI is to avoid the crap of internet search (Google or ddg, even when I find the right page finding the specific part of a pain) At some point chatgpt will become crap and the cycle will repeat
- famouswaffles 2y ago
  There are millions of free apps. They had some estimated 10M paid users a few months ago. >Is a paid user generating profit right now? For themselves ? I don't know and neither does the person saying they have no PMF. There is nothing stopping Open AI from inserting ads into GPT's responses, either explicitly with the search tool or weaved into predicted responses. Their revenue nearly quadrupled year on year and model training and inference costs have reduced by several orders of magnitude in the last few years. I'm not saying that Open AI are foolproof. But the money being pumped to them is more or less expected.

chipsrafferty 2y ago

That actual isn't evidence at all that the general public knows a lot about it, or even uses it much. It can be a small group of very active users.

famouswaffles 2y ago
To put it frankly, not at this scale. I don't know what you think nearly 4B visits per month is (and top ten in worldwide traffic) that "a small group of active users" can generate. 300M active users a week is not a small group and you do not get there without general public awareness.

parineum 2y ago

> I mean nobody needs to bother with anecdotes here. chatgpt.com hit 3.7B visits in October and was #8 in worldwide internet traffic. Open AI say they have 300M weekly active users and 1B messages per day. As far as the "zeitgeist" conversation goes, though, there's one story in the non-tech news about AI right now and it isn't how it's making everyone's life easier. It's, yet again, a story about how someone trusted it and got burned because the markov chain landed on something not true.

darkwater 2y ago

Yes, because it is free. How many paid users? Is a paid user generating profit right now? Google had to inject advertising in its search results to start earning real money. What will OpenAI do? That's the PMF.

chgs 2y ago
90% of my use of OpenAI is to avoid the crap of internet search (Google or ddg, even when I find the right page finding the specific part of a pain) At some point chatgpt will become crap and the cycle will repeat
famouswaffles 2y ago
There are millions of free apps. They had some estimated 10M paid users a few months ago. >Is a paid user generating profit right now? For themselves ? I don't know and neither does the person saying they have no PMF. There is nothing stopping Open AI from inserting ads into GPT's responses, either explicitly with the search tool or weaved into predicted responses. Their revenue nearly quadrupled year on year and model training and inference costs have reduced by several orders of magnitude in the last few years. I'm not saying that Open AI are foolproof. But the money being pumped to them is more or less expected.