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“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves” -- Matthew 7:15

MrMcCall 2y ago
Good thing I love everyone and have a loving family with two exceptional teenagers in this age of troubled youth. We laugh and have fun and my wife and kids are beloved by everyone they know, and each of us have developed personal skillsets that bring us and those around us joy. I was about to post this, from memory: "You will know them by their fruits." Then I DDG'd it, and -- GUESS WHAT!? -- it was the verses that follow the verse you supplied :-) Matthew 7:16-20: You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them. You know what the math genius janitor last said just after he left the bar in "Good Will Hunting", right?
- SketchySeaBeast 2y ago
  I've been having fun with your unwarranted grandiosity, but seriously, this very much reads like someone in the middle of a manic episode, who believes themselves to have amazing capabilities and secret knowledge, and who needs to proselytize in exhausting detail their magical understanding and universal love to everyone who will hear it. I sincerely hope you're doing as well as you say you are, because it's a bit concerning.
  - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
    Exactly. I also suggested he get some counseling a few days ago. He is deep in the delusions. I read his comments from time to time as entertainment on how crazy people are. To kind of keep tabs on what kind of crazy people exist, and what they are saying. But after his latest comments, it is little more depressing. A raving lunatic can be entertaining. But it isn't entertaining anymore to know someone is having that many problems, and needs help. Of course, it is on the internet, an unreliable narrator. Could just be a troll? Hard to tell.
- MrMcCall 2y ago
  I see there's enough apples to go around to those who would rather call me names and reply to each other than try to mount a cogent argument to the facts of life. Of course, it's easier for them to think I'm crazy or delusional than it is for them to understand that they're just plain stupid and arrogant. Of course, the biggest problem with the stupid is that they're often too arogant and stupid to know how stupid they are. That's why the Earth is as it is, after millenia of the carnage caused by widespread human idiocy and cruelty. The first two casualities of the enemy of truth's war on human happiness are truth and love. Seeking deeper truths leads us to the importance of love, and seeking to be more loving grants us access to deeper truths. They are the two most necessary components of our virtues' upward developmental spiral. I've heard it said, "Hurt people hurt people." Ad hominems and calling someone crazy is always the way of the vanguished foe, the ones whom words fail, and whose intellects have broken under the strain of the truth. Once the ad hominems start, their loss has been written in pen by the arbiter, and the victor can explain the blunders that led to their overwhelming victory.
  - SketchySeaBeast 2y ago
    I am genuinely expressing my concern, but apparently that's upsetting, and I could see how that would be, but I hope you're able to reflect enough how your words would appear delusion to those who don't share your enlightenment. Your talk about the power of love and truth - it's not that profound, but you seem to think it's incredibly powerful, when it's just trite. And yes, when you say thing like "deeper truths" it sounds like you're celebrating secret knowledge, that you think you're smarter than everyone else for discovering the power of love.
    - MrMcCall 2y ago
      You don't even know that you are the one so grandiose that you see fit to diagnose someone over the internet (you're a freaking software developer). Look, Occam's Razor says you're arrogant and ignorant, ok? But your ego is fighting this glaringly obvious truth because you're willfully ignorant and arrogant. You can't make a cogent argument to a single point I've made, so Occam's Razor should be pointing you in a different direction than to keep up your incurious arrogance. You tried to accuse me of being a false prophet, a wolf in sheep's clothing, with a Bible verse that only led to the next verses backing up my explanation that you were replying to, where I explained that knowing the truth is a fruit of the Path of Love. Have you learned nothing from Dunning-Kruger? You have no humility, no points to make, and only ad hominems, in the face of an expert who has done the humble work to become a better person. Your "concern" could not be more worthless. It is born of your fragile ego that knows that if you follow the Path of Love, it will be transmuted from an arrogant fool into a selflessly compassionate bearer of Wisdom. Pride goeth before the fall. My work here is not born of pride, but simply of my duty to bear witness to the truth; this is a compassionate act of service to you and all who read this. I say this in friendship, for your benefit, not mine. Your attacking my person and the love I am trying to teach is not good for your happiness. Not believing in gravity will not save you from getting hurt falling from a height, and you are running towards the cliff's edge. I have come in peace and kindness; you should treat both myself and the truth I convey better than you have. A mind only works when it's open, right?

Good thing I love everyone and have a loving family with two exceptional teenagers in this age of troubled youth. We laugh and have fun and my wife and kids are beloved by everyone they know, and each of us have developed personal skillsets that bring us and those around us joy. I was about to post this, from memory: "You will know them by their fruits." Then I DDG'd it, and -- GUESS WHAT!? -- it was the verses that follow the verse you supplied :-) Matthew 7:16-20: You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them. You know what the math genius janitor last said just after he left the bar in "Good Will Hunting", right?

SketchySeaBeast 2y ago
I've been having fun with your unwarranted grandiosity, but seriously, this very much reads like someone in the middle of a manic episode, who believes themselves to have amazing capabilities and secret knowledge, and who needs to proselytize in exhausting detail their magical understanding and universal love to everyone who will hear it. I sincerely hope you're doing as well as you say you are, because it's a bit concerning.
- FrustratedMonky 2y ago
  Exactly. I also suggested he get some counseling a few days ago. He is deep in the delusions. I read his comments from time to time as entertainment on how crazy people are. To kind of keep tabs on what kind of crazy people exist, and what they are saying. But after his latest comments, it is little more depressing. A raving lunatic can be entertaining. But it isn't entertaining anymore to know someone is having that many problems, and needs help. Of course, it is on the internet, an unreliable narrator. Could just be a troll? Hard to tell.
MrMcCall 2y ago
I see there's enough apples to go around to those who would rather call me names and reply to each other than try to mount a cogent argument to the facts of life. Of course, it's easier for them to think I'm crazy or delusional than it is for them to understand that they're just plain stupid and arrogant. Of course, the biggest problem with the stupid is that they're often too arogant and stupid to know how stupid they are. That's why the Earth is as it is, after millenia of the carnage caused by widespread human idiocy and cruelty. The first two casualities of the enemy of truth's war on human happiness are truth and love. Seeking deeper truths leads us to the importance of love, and seeking to be more loving grants us access to deeper truths. They are the two most necessary components of our virtues' upward developmental spiral. I've heard it said, "Hurt people hurt people." Ad hominems and calling someone crazy is always the way of the vanguished foe, the ones whom words fail, and whose intellects have broken under the strain of the truth. Once the ad hominems start, their loss has been written in pen by the arbiter, and the victor can explain the blunders that led to their overwhelming victory.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y ago
  I am genuinely expressing my concern, but apparently that's upsetting, and I could see how that would be, but I hope you're able to reflect enough how your words would appear delusion to those who don't share your enlightenment. Your talk about the power of love and truth - it's not that profound, but you seem to think it's incredibly powerful, when it's just trite. And yes, when you say thing like "deeper truths" it sounds like you're celebrating secret knowledge, that you think you're smarter than everyone else for discovering the power of love.
  - MrMcCall 2y ago
    You don't even know that you are the one so grandiose that you see fit to diagnose someone over the internet (you're a freaking software developer). Look, Occam's Razor says you're arrogant and ignorant, ok? But your ego is fighting this glaringly obvious truth because you're willfully ignorant and arrogant. You can't make a cogent argument to a single point I've made, so Occam's Razor should be pointing you in a different direction than to keep up your incurious arrogance. You tried to accuse me of being a false prophet, a wolf in sheep's clothing, with a Bible verse that only led to the next verses backing up my explanation that you were replying to, where I explained that knowing the truth is a fruit of the Path of Love. Have you learned nothing from Dunning-Kruger? You have no humility, no points to make, and only ad hominems, in the face of an expert who has done the humble work to become a better person. Your "concern" could not be more worthless. It is born of your fragile ego that knows that if you follow the Path of Love, it will be transmuted from an arrogant fool into a selflessly compassionate bearer of Wisdom. Pride goeth before the fall. My work here is not born of pride, but simply of my duty to bear witness to the truth; this is a compassionate act of service to you and all who read this. I say this in friendship, for your benefit, not mine. Your attacking my person and the love I am trying to teach is not good for your happiness. Not believing in gravity will not save you from getting hurt falling from a height, and you are running towards the cliff's edge. I have come in peace and kindness; you should treat both myself and the truth I convey better than you have. A mind only works when it's open, right?