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This is public/state controlled funding. Also it is reserving it for "research with economic benefits." New Zealand isn't a rich country. Also private entities

by Hilift 2y ago

This is public/state controlled funding. Also it is reserving it for "research with economic benefits." New Zealand isn't a rich country. Also private entities can fund research. It is common in the US for chemical companies to fund grants. For example, to determine what chemicals are in breast milk. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/may/13/pfas-forever-chemicals-breast-milk-us-study https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/may/13/pfas-for... https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.0c06978 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.0c06978 https://www.acs.org/about/aboutacs/financial/overview.html https://www.acs.org/about/aboutacs/financial/overview.html

asdfman123 2y ago
> New Zealand isn't a rich country It's 23rd by GDP per capita, next to France
- bogantech 2y ago
  > per capita So France is over 10x richer then
  - immibis 2y ago
    France has to spread its 10x higher funding between 10x more scientists.
- ztetranz 2y ago
  One of New Zealand's problems is that, yes it's a rich country compared to many others but it's conveniently close to a bigger richer country with easy immigration for NZ citizens. Record numbers of kiwis are moving to Australia where wages are higher and prices are usually lower. The "brain drain" is very real and quite concerning. I'm a kiwi living in the US so admittedly I'm not helping matters but I do worry about my home country being on a slippery slope.
autoexec 2y ago
> Also private entities can fund research. It is common in the US for chemical companies to fund grants. It's also common in the US for companies to fund research so that they can manipulate results to their benefit and/or to bury results showing that their products are harmful. One of the many nice things about publicly funded research is that its purpose isn't to increase sales/stock prices, advertise, or manipulate/hide the truth from the public.

by Hilift 2y ago

asdfman123 2y ago

> New Zealand isn't a rich country It's 23rd by GDP per capita, next to France

bogantech 2y ago
> per capita So France is over 10x richer then
- immibis 2y ago
  France has to spread its 10x higher funding between 10x more scientists.
ztetranz 2y ago
One of New Zealand's problems is that, yes it's a rich country compared to many others but it's conveniently close to a bigger richer country with easy immigration for NZ citizens. Record numbers of kiwis are moving to Australia where wages are higher and prices are usually lower. The "brain drain" is very real and quite concerning. I'm a kiwi living in the US so admittedly I'm not helping matters but I do worry about my home country being on a slippery slope.

autoexec 2y ago

> Also private entities can fund research. It is common in the US for chemical companies to fund grants. It's also common in the US for companies to fund research so that they can manipulate results to their benefit and/or to bury results showing that their products are harmful. One of the many nice things about publicly funded research is that its purpose isn't to increase sales/stock prices, advertise, or manipulate/hide the truth from the public.