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Can you give some feedback as to how people can feel confident you will produce this machine? People are used to larger teams taking literally years to put out

Can you give some feedback as to how people can feel confident you will produce this machine? People are used to larger teams taking literally years to put out a machine - see "Odyssey Argos" and "Meticulous" - and years of delays after preorder is announced. Both are probably not significantly more complicated than your machine - and you are aspiring to also put out a grinder with a totally new concept. I am really excited about the product, but I think answering the above will go some way to help you get a lot of preorders. Additionally, re: the pumps, I would love to order and put these in my Decent. The Decent uses really standard vibe pumps (which are super annoying) but what does the flow rate look like compared to standard vibe pumps? The decent can get up to 8ml/s I think - but it uses two pumps to mix hot and cold water. So I wonder if this would be about the same as a traditional vibe pump.

mortos 2y ago
The machine in TFA is maybe a bit deceptive, it's actually hardly more than a pump. The Argos and Meticulous are much more complex. They have both struggled scaling up their operations, which is a complexity shared with all manufactured products, however I'd be curious if this machine fetches that many orders (both those machines are in the thousands of orders). There's some discussion in the Decent Diaspora (Decent's private user forums, for other readers), but I'd have doubts about simply dropping in these pumps with no changes in firmware. The Decent relies on the rapid (near instant) response of vibe pumps to make constant adjustments to the water mixing. Aside, 8ml/s is more or less accurate. Some people have gone a bit above this I believe even up to 10ml/s, but it's a bit of luck and your electricity.
- roflyear 2y ago
  You're right, they are more complicated machines. It doesn't seem like the velofuso machine has a heater, so that's a huge difference. The pump is pretty cool though, I hope they can deliver on that. A lot of people will buy that and it will open up cool innovations for new machines. I hope they patent the pump.

mortos 2y ago

The machine in TFA is maybe a bit deceptive, it's actually hardly more than a pump. The Argos and Meticulous are much more complex. They have both struggled scaling up their operations, which is a complexity shared with all manufactured products, however I'd be curious if this machine fetches that many orders (both those machines are in the thousands of orders). There's some discussion in the Decent Diaspora (Decent's private user forums, for other readers), but I'd have doubts about simply dropping in these pumps with no changes in firmware. The Decent relies on the rapid (near instant) response of vibe pumps to make constant adjustments to the water mixing. Aside, 8ml/s is more or less accurate. Some people have gone a bit above this I believe even up to 10ml/s, but it's a bit of luck and your electricity.

roflyear 2y ago
You're right, they are more complicated machines. It doesn't seem like the velofuso machine has a heater, so that's a huge difference. The pump is pretty cool though, I hope they can deliver on that. A lot of people will buy that and it will open up cool innovations for new machines. I hope they patent the pump.