I didn't assume anything about your motives, but I didn't mean to be harsh. You do come across as an "apologist" for the community though. There are of course m

I didn't assume anything about your motives, but I didn't mean to be harsh. You do come across as an "apologist" for the community though. There are of course many communities that behave similiarly, but that doesn't make them healthy. Look at it this way - imagine you had a conversation with a group of people 4 years ago, and they acted like dicks. Now, four years later someone challenges you to explain how they were dicks. It's really hard to give an answer better than "i dont know, they were just dicks alright" :(