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Nice. Somewhat tempting to upgrade from my ivy bridge, but then I'm reminded that intel's last decade has been such a dumpster fire that everything from the las

Nice. Somewhat tempting to upgrade from my ivy bridge, but then I'm reminded that intel's last decade has been such a dumpster fire that everything from the last decade may be more or less the same. What does libreboot mean these days ? Does T480 do native RAM init ? Or does it still need FSP ? It may be easier to use coreboot directly. I don't think libreboot does anything more than coreboot these days. This is also exciting as T480 is the same as T25, so you may be able to use T25's keyboard with it. That's the old style keyboard that they don't make any more.

ezntek 2y ago
i believe that raminit isnt done via a blob anymore. you might as well read the official docs. coreboot isnt even in the main tree yet! you have to use libreboot unless if you want to hunt down mate kukri's branch and go off that. you also have to use deguard to disable intel boot guard. It is more work than ivy bridge, which is why I use libreboot; its all done for you, its reliable and updates are done by someone else (you dont have to update your own payload yourself and recompile and retinker etc).
dTal 2y ago
>T480 is the same as T25, so you may be able to use T25's keyboard with it The mod is complicated and very, very expensive. But possible, if you can find one in your preferred layout, which is very doubtful at this point - they've all been snapped up by people doing what you describe. I do use the T25 keyboard on my T480. Is it nice? Oh hell yes. Was it worth the time and expense? Absolutely not, unless you are a serious keyboard nerd and have more money than sense. Which I did, at the time.
- bubblethink 2y ago
  Yeah, I looked up what people have done, and the EC alone makes it not worthwhile. And like you said, there's no availability. Ebay only shows the Japanese layout. I think the T480(s) keyboard is fine. I'm quite comfortable with the Tx30 chiclet keyboard, and 480 looks about the same. I was debating buying X1C 13, but this T480(s) may be a fun Christmas break project.
  - dTal 2y ago
    >the EC alone makes it not worthwhile Now this I don't agree with; I have made no software changes to my T480 whatsoever, and the keyboard works more or less as expected. Some of the Fn-key shortcuts do not match the key labels (behaving instead like a stock T480) and the microphone mute button doesn't work, but otherwise everything's perfect out of the box. Speaker mute, volume keys, navigation keys all fine.

ezntek 2y ago

i believe that raminit isnt done via a blob anymore. you might as well read the official docs. coreboot isnt even in the main tree yet! you have to use libreboot unless if you want to hunt down mate kukri's branch and go off that. you also have to use deguard to disable intel boot guard. It is more work than ivy bridge, which is why I use libreboot; its all done for you, its reliable and updates are done by someone else (you dont have to update your own payload yourself and recompile and retinker etc).

dTal 2y ago

>T480 is the same as T25, so you may be able to use T25's keyboard with it The mod is complicated and very, very expensive. But possible, if you can find one in your preferred layout, which is very doubtful at this point - they've all been snapped up by people doing what you describe. I do use the T25 keyboard on my T480. Is it nice? Oh hell yes. Was it worth the time and expense? Absolutely not, unless you are a serious keyboard nerd and have more money than sense. Which I did, at the time.

bubblethink 2y ago
Yeah, I looked up what people have done, and the EC alone makes it not worthwhile. And like you said, there's no availability. Ebay only shows the Japanese layout. I think the T480(s) keyboard is fine. I'm quite comfortable with the Tx30 chiclet keyboard, and 480 looks about the same. I was debating buying X1C 13, but this T480(s) may be a fun Christmas break project.
- dTal 2y ago
  >the EC alone makes it not worthwhile Now this I don't agree with; I have made no software changes to my T480 whatsoever, and the keyboard works more or less as expected. Some of the Fn-key shortcuts do not match the key labels (behaving instead like a stock T480) and the microphone mute button doesn't work, but otherwise everything's perfect out of the box. Speaker mute, volume keys, navigation keys all fine.