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What do you need from grandma, who is in constant pain and desires to die?
by jncfhnb 2y ago
What do you need from grandma, who is in constant pain and desires to die?
- nashashmi 2y agoThe touch, the voice, the eyes of love, the concern, the stories, the heart, the smile, ... shall I go on?
- jncfhnb 2y agoGrandma doesn’t want to share those stories because it hurts to talk and she can’t see well and just generally she’s in a constant bad mood because her life sucks.
- nashashmi 2y agoThat would be the fault of those who are responsible for her happiness
- int_19h 2y agoThere are quite a few medical conditions in which it is impossible to make it not hurt.
- jncfhnb 2y agoOk. Even if we hold that ridiculous assumption true… so what? Let’s say grandma is explicitly suffering because others are failing her? Your proposed thesis still suggests she does not have justification for choosing death. What does she still owe us.
- nashashmi 2y agoI think you pivoted to another argument. Better would have been if you had started with that argument. Instead you asked what is grandma good for?
- wiseowise 2y agoGrandma is long gone, you’re prolonging suffering of her husk for selfish reasons.
- steve_adams_86 2y agoAll of this is beautiful stuff, but I think it no longer applies when suffering has removed a person's humanity such that they can't offer these things anymore. At that point they're only capable of putting their energy into suffering. Even your attempts to alleviate their suffering are probably useless, or offer little to no relief. I don't see why you would think about or hope for these things when they're effectively gone; especially not if wanting these things for yourself is at a loved one's expense.
- buttercraft 2y agoSo you want grandma to suffer for you. How very selfish.