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> Anything that approaches the underwater mothership is destroyed before they even know they're under attack. Let me guess, it is parked in the "Bermuda Trian

> Anything that approaches the underwater mothership is destroyed before they even know they're under attack. Let me guess, it is parked in the "Bermuda Triangle". It's easy to make theories when you are unburdened by evidence.

boesboes 2y ago
Yup, but it only attacks military targets that are threat. Otherwise it just hides deeper. Looking forward to a spin off of ancient aliens on this haha Evidence smevidence! Aliens!
- jandrese 2y ago
  If they have craft that can travel between solar systems then our military technology is not a threat. Besides, why make your presence known when you can just hide deeper from everybody? People tend to notice with multi-million dollar craft manned by people with families suddenly go missing, especially in American waters at peacetime with modern geolocation and communications technologies installed. If fully manned Navy frigates and destroyers were vanishing without warning or explanation there is zero chance of keeping a lid on that. Way too many people involved, many of which are civilians.
narrator 2y ago
There used to be no evidence at all, but now you have David Grusch who was given explicit authorization to talk to people in unacknowledged special access programs about UAPs and he said under oath before congress that yes, there are crashed ET craft with biologics in them that have been recovered going back to the 1930s. https://x.com/cspan/status/1684217673716989958 https://x.com/cspan/status/1684217673716989958
- javajosh 2y ago
  Testimony is not evidence, and using the passive voice ("given explicit authorization", by whom? why does this matter?) is an explicit argument from authority. Physical evidence or nothing. There are no shortage of credulous people in the world happy to bask in the glow of attention. Consider the counter-factual. If indeed there are aliens here, and have been here for decades, why not centuries? Why haven't previous generations found them, and not known their true origin? How curious that these artifacts only started appearing in the space age, when if they had appeared previously they would have been attributed to a religious origin (and not only not suppressed, but shared widely as evidence for God.) Note: if aliens are here then FTL travel is not only possible but common, and easy, and this would undermine a great deal of verified physics. To get around this you'd need a conspiracy across all physics research (a la the SF novel "The Three Body Problem"). I'd also add that if going to other planets was like sailing a ship, then we could expect (lazy, sloppy) tourists to come around who don't "toe the line" when it comes to staying hidden. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and without it all such claims can be safely ignored (and indeed, can and should negatively impact the people making them).
  - narrator 2y ago
    Grusch was given access specifically by an act of the U.S Congress to investigate UAPs. Watch the CSPAN link of the congressional hearing I provided for the full details. Read the link to "The Crowded Galaxy" theory for what's probably going on based on that testimony. It answers all your questions. There are probably millions of planets with life in the galaxy. We're not remarkable except with how hyper-violent and invasive our species is, which is why they're keeping an eye on us. We evolved here so we have the right to live here, but we don't have any rights to live anywhere else in the galaxy. Transforming is probably a ghastly notion to them.
    - krapp 2y ago
      The government also studied remote viewing, psychic powers, and tried to control people's minds with LSD. The government has been investigating UFOs since Project Grudge back in the 1940s. None of that is evidence that remote viewing, psychic powers, mind control or UFOs are actually really alien spacecraft. David Grusch repeating second and thirdhand claims about alien conspiracies is not evidence that those claims are real, nor is investigating UAPs evidence of the existence of alien spacecraft. None of this is actually evidence if anything, it's literally the same non-evidence the UFO community has always believed in as a matter of faith, and insisted that everyone else take as proven, self-evident fact.
      - narrator 2y ago
        Worth remaining a little skeptical. Could be Project Blue Beam, the plan for a fake alien invasion, that's been talked about for literally decades in conspiracy circles.
- chatmasta 2y ago
  Nothing about this guy is trustworthy, but it’s the “biologics” that sets me off. Who says this? It’s a nonsense word that sounds smart.
akira2501 2y ago
It's impossible to discover novel phenomenon if you are unwilling to start without evidence. Meanwhile, you yourself _just_ made a meta-theory, without any burden whatsoever.

boesboes 2y ago

Yup, but it only attacks military targets that are threat. Otherwise it just hides deeper. Looking forward to a spin off of ancient aliens on this haha Evidence smevidence! Aliens!

jandrese 2y ago
If they have craft that can travel between solar systems then our military technology is not a threat. Besides, why make your presence known when you can just hide deeper from everybody? People tend to notice with multi-million dollar craft manned by people with families suddenly go missing, especially in American waters at peacetime with modern geolocation and communications technologies installed. If fully manned Navy frigates and destroyers were vanishing without warning or explanation there is zero chance of keeping a lid on that. Way too many people involved, many of which are civilians.

narrator 2y ago

There used to be no evidence at all, but now you have David Grusch who was given explicit authorization to talk to people in unacknowledged special access programs about UAPs and he said under oath before congress that yes, there are crashed ET craft with biologics in them that have been recovered going back to the 1930s. https://x.com/cspan/status/1684217673716989958 https://x.com/cspan/status/1684217673716989958

javajosh 2y ago
Testimony is not evidence, and using the passive voice ("given explicit authorization", by whom? why does this matter?) is an explicit argument from authority. Physical evidence or nothing. There are no shortage of credulous people in the world happy to bask in the glow of attention. Consider the counter-factual. If indeed there are aliens here, and have been here for decades, why not centuries? Why haven't previous generations found them, and not known their true origin? How curious that these artifacts only started appearing in the space age, when if they had appeared previously they would have been attributed to a religious origin (and not only not suppressed, but shared widely as evidence for God.) Note: if aliens are here then FTL travel is not only possible but common, and easy, and this would undermine a great deal of verified physics. To get around this you'd need a conspiracy across all physics research (a la the SF novel "The Three Body Problem"). I'd also add that if going to other planets was like sailing a ship, then we could expect (lazy, sloppy) tourists to come around who don't "toe the line" when it comes to staying hidden. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and without it all such claims can be safely ignored (and indeed, can and should negatively impact the people making them).
- narrator 2y ago
  Grusch was given access specifically by an act of the U.S Congress to investigate UAPs. Watch the CSPAN link of the congressional hearing I provided for the full details. Read the link to "The Crowded Galaxy" theory for what's probably going on based on that testimony. It answers all your questions. There are probably millions of planets with life in the galaxy. We're not remarkable except with how hyper-violent and invasive our species is, which is why they're keeping an eye on us. We evolved here so we have the right to live here, but we don't have any rights to live anywhere else in the galaxy. Transforming is probably a ghastly notion to them.
  - krapp 2y ago
    The government also studied remote viewing, psychic powers, and tried to control people's minds with LSD. The government has been investigating UFOs since Project Grudge back in the 1940s. None of that is evidence that remote viewing, psychic powers, mind control or UFOs are actually really alien spacecraft. David Grusch repeating second and thirdhand claims about alien conspiracies is not evidence that those claims are real, nor is investigating UAPs evidence of the existence of alien spacecraft. None of this is actually evidence if anything, it's literally the same non-evidence the UFO community has always believed in as a matter of faith, and insisted that everyone else take as proven, self-evident fact.
    - narrator 2y ago
      Worth remaining a little skeptical. Could be Project Blue Beam, the plan for a fake alien invasion, that's been talked about for literally decades in conspiracy circles.
chatmasta 2y ago
Nothing about this guy is trustworthy, but it’s the “biologics” that sets me off. Who says this? It’s a nonsense word that sounds smart.

akira2501 2y ago

It's impossible to discover novel phenomenon if you are unwilling to start without evidence. Meanwhile, you yourself _just_ made a meta-theory, without any burden whatsoever.