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It's just a somewhat poetic way to describe the flavors you get when cooking with really high heat really fast. You can't get it on teflon because you're using

It's just a somewhat poetic way to describe the flavors you get when cooking with really high heat really fast. You can't get it on teflon because you're using temps 100+ degrees above what teflon can handle without decomposing.

jancsika 2y ago
Can you safely get those temps on an electric oven?
- Baeocystin 2y ago
  To clarify, you can't use any teflon or ceramic nonstick coating at the temps required, regardless of heating method. The coatings will degrade, and possibly poison you. That being said, you don't need to be using gas. It is possible to get good wok hei on an induction wok, despite what the foodie peanut gallery says. Not on a 120V unit, though. You need to use a commercial multi-kilowatt setup.
  - jancsika 2y ago
    So now I have to ask-- what's the health risk of eating singed pieces of egg with each breakfast?
    - dole 2y ago
      Depends relative on the singeing and carbonization and other chemical reactions
  - havblue 2y ago
    What exactly are you saying the problem with ceramic is? Could you be more specific?
    - Baeocystin 2y ago
      The risks of teflon are well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stick_surface#Health_concerns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stick_surface#Health_conce... The risks of ceramic coatings less so, but still concerning: https://foodpackagingforum.org/news/nanoparticles-released-by-quasi-ceramic-pans https://foodpackagingforum.org/news/nanoparticles-released-b... Either way, neither is safe for higher heat cooking. At the very least, ceramics will rapidly degrade if used for such.
- Modified3019 2y ago
  Teflon breaks down into toxic fumes at high temperatures, regardless of what the source of the heat is. In fact if you have birds, it’s best to not have teflon at all, because they are so sensitive to teflon fume poisoning: https://beaknwings.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Teflon-Toxicity.pdf https://beaknwings.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Teflon-Tox...

jancsika 2y ago

Can you safely get those temps on an electric oven?

Baeocystin 2y ago
To clarify, you can't use any teflon or ceramic nonstick coating at the temps required, regardless of heating method. The coatings will degrade, and possibly poison you. That being said, you don't need to be using gas. It is possible to get good wok hei on an induction wok, despite what the foodie peanut gallery says. Not on a 120V unit, though. You need to use a commercial multi-kilowatt setup.
- jancsika 2y ago
  So now I have to ask-- what's the health risk of eating singed pieces of egg with each breakfast?
  - dole 2y ago
    Depends relative on the singeing and carbonization and other chemical reactions
- havblue 2y ago
  What exactly are you saying the problem with ceramic is? Could you be more specific?
  - Baeocystin 2y ago
    The risks of teflon are well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stick_surface#Health_concerns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stick_surface#Health_conce... The risks of ceramic coatings less so, but still concerning: https://foodpackagingforum.org/news/nanoparticles-released-by-quasi-ceramic-pans https://foodpackagingforum.org/news/nanoparticles-released-b... Either way, neither is safe for higher heat cooking. At the very least, ceramics will rapidly degrade if used for such.
Modified3019 2y ago
Teflon breaks down into toxic fumes at high temperatures, regardless of what the source of the heat is. In fact if you have birds, it’s best to not have teflon at all, because they are so sensitive to teflon fume poisoning: https://beaknwings.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Teflon-Toxicity.pdf https://beaknwings.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Teflon-Tox...