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> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coas

> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coast. I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

macintux 2y ago
Remember Jewish space lasers?
- WillPostForFood 2y ago
  Remember Chinese weather balloons? We live in a time where through incompetence or corruption, almost anything possible can actually happen.
tyre 2y ago
Yes, he’s clearly making it all up.
- quantadev 2y ago
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Arrath 2y ago
"He made it up" certainly seems more likely than Iran, what, retrofitting one of their old Kilo class D/E subs to be a drone mothership that's just lurking off the coast?
- quantadev 2y ago
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ceejayoz 2y ago
Congressional reps can be... credulous. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-congressman-falls-victim-to-old-onion-article/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-congressman-falls-vi...
StanislavPetrov 2y ago
>I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up? Don't forget rank stupidity as a strong possibility.
pfisch 2y ago
How much time did he get on fox news? How many new followers on social media? This is the game they are playing. The attention game. Just like the kid who misbehaves so people pay attention to him. This is what social media has done to our society.
cuuupid 2y ago
With everything intel-coded you can quickly figure out what is actually happening by applying the three point framework: [1] What we know: Iran does not have a strong drone program, and it is almost impossible to get a ship that close to our shores without it being blown to literal bits by our 3 navy's. [2] Noise: Congress has almost no insight into what the DoD does outside of hearings and oversight committees; Jeff Van Drew is on none of the committees that oversee any of our drone programs or space command, nor do these meet on a frequent enough cadence for them to have weighed in intel already. He's also a gun nut pro-lifer who has voted with Russian interests in the last two votes, and I doubt he would receive many markings or special briefings from intel agencies. The Pentagon (which currently directly oversees TF Lima, is where CDAO is based out of, and collaborates closely with SPACECOM) has also very publicly shot down these claims. [3] Boring explanation: he's making it all up.
- WillPostForFood 2y ago
  Iran does not have a strong drone program They punch above their weight, and have one of the most battle tested drone program besides the US. https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Documents/News/Military_Power_Publications/UAV_Book.pdf https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Documents/News/Military_Powe...
  - cuuupid 2y ago
    This release just links Iranian technology to UAVs used against Ukraine; they are nowhere near the capabilities of top military powers. The only country that can claim the #2 spot on the list is China. To give you an idea of the comparison, Iranian drones are not even close capability wise to a Reaper. The Reaper is damn near EOL as it was developed in 2007(!) and is basically caveman technology compared to what we are currently running.
    - WillPostForFood 2y ago
      they are nowhere near the capabilities of top military powers Russia is a top military power, and they use Iranian drones. BTW, I didn't say they were number 2, I said they were battle tested unlike other top programs, like China'. Iran's drones are currently actively being used in two wars (vs Ukraine, vs Israel). I don't think there are Iranian drones in NJ, but it isn't because they don't have a capable program. It's because it makes no sense.
slt2021 2y ago
if you trust congressman's word (purchased by AIPAC for 30 shekels), you are lost
- quantadev 2y ago
  But there's also a reason CNN (and most MSM) have lost all credibility. People finally realized which side has indeed been lying basically nonstop for the past 10 years.

macintux 2y ago

Remember Jewish space lasers?

WillPostForFood 2y ago
Remember Chinese weather balloons? We live in a time where through incompetence or corruption, almost anything possible can actually happen.

tyre 2y ago

Yes, he’s clearly making it all up.

quantadev 2y ago
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Arrath 2y ago

"He made it up" certainly seems more likely than Iran, what, retrofitting one of their old Kilo class D/E subs to be a drone mothership that's just lurking off the coast?

quantadev 2y ago
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ceejayoz 2y ago

Congressional reps can be... credulous. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-congressman-falls-victim-to-old-onion-article/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-congressman-falls-vi...

StanislavPetrov 2y ago

>I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up? Don't forget rank stupidity as a strong possibility.

pfisch 2y ago

How much time did he get on fox news? How many new followers on social media? This is the game they are playing. The attention game. Just like the kid who misbehaves so people pay attention to him. This is what social media has done to our society.

cuuupid 2y ago

With everything intel-coded you can quickly figure out what is actually happening by applying the three point framework: [1] What we know: Iran does not have a strong drone program, and it is almost impossible to get a ship that close to our shores without it being blown to literal bits by our 3 navy's. [2] Noise: Congress has almost no insight into what the DoD does outside of hearings and oversight committees; Jeff Van Drew is on none of the committees that oversee any of our drone programs or space command, nor do these meet on a frequent enough cadence for them to have weighed in intel already. He's also a gun nut pro-lifer who has voted with Russian interests in the last two votes, and I doubt he would receive many markings or special briefings from intel agencies. The Pentagon (which currently directly oversees TF Lima, is where CDAO is based out of, and collaborates closely with SPACECOM) has also very publicly shot down these claims. [3] Boring explanation: he's making it all up.

WillPostForFood 2y ago
Iran does not have a strong drone program They punch above their weight, and have one of the most battle tested drone program besides the US. https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Documents/News/Military_Power_Publications/UAV_Book.pdf https://www.dia.mil/Portals/110/Documents/News/Military_Powe...
- cuuupid 2y ago
  This release just links Iranian technology to UAVs used against Ukraine; they are nowhere near the capabilities of top military powers. The only country that can claim the #2 spot on the list is China. To give you an idea of the comparison, Iranian drones are not even close capability wise to a Reaper. The Reaper is damn near EOL as it was developed in 2007(!) and is basically caveman technology compared to what we are currently running.
  - WillPostForFood 2y ago
    they are nowhere near the capabilities of top military powers Russia is a top military power, and they use Iranian drones. BTW, I didn't say they were number 2, I said they were battle tested unlike other top programs, like China'. Iran's drones are currently actively being used in two wars (vs Ukraine, vs Israel). I don't think there are Iranian drones in NJ, but it isn't because they don't have a capable program. It's because it makes no sense.

slt2021 2y ago

if you trust congressman's word (purchased by AIPAC for 30 shekels), you are lost

quantadev 2y ago
But there's also a reason CNN (and most MSM) have lost all credibility. People finally realized which side has indeed been lying basically nonstop for the past 10 years.