You seem to think that only a concrete and signed membership plan is a red line, It's the only one that the commenter was referring to. Whereas even CNBC cite

You seem to think that only a concrete and signed membership plan is a red line, It's the only one that the commenter was referring to. Whereas even CNBC cites Putin's red lines. Except you're shifting goal posts. The "red lines" referred to by the CNBC are entirely different (and separated by 13 years) from those referred to by the previous commenter. And anyway that's just CNBC's misreading of the events. Suffice it to say there was a lot more to Putin's noises at the time. More specifically, by that point the West did not (as you are strongly implying) have the option of deterring the invasion by simply complying with some specific, reasonable request Putin was making. The only thing we really know about whichever of Putin's supposed "red lines" were supposedly crossed (thus "causing" this whole thing) is that no one seems to be able to articulate what they supposedly were. And then we have this: given the propensity of the Western media to call anyone and anything "fascist" There is no such "propensity" within Western media. Or any other significant tendency. This is just complete nonsense. Another day, another throwaway account with a throwaway argument.