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Besides Silverlight (which was supported all the way until the end of 2021!), you can still not only run but _write new applications_ using all of the listed te

by bri3d 2y ago

Besides Silverlight (which was supported all the way until the end of 2021!), you can still not only run but _write new applications_ using all of the listed technologies.

fluoridation 2y ago
That doesn't constitute support when it comes to development platforms. They've not received any updates in years or decades. What they've done is simply not remove the capability build capability from the toolchains. That is, not even the work that would be required to no longer support them in any way. Compare that to C#, which has evolved rapidly over the same time period.
- Fidelix 2y ago
  That's different from "killing" the product / technology, which is what Google does.
  - fluoridation 2y ago
    Only because they operate different businesses. Google is primarily a service provider. They have few software products that are not designed to integrate with their servers. Many of Microsoft's businesses work fundamentally differently. There's nothing Microsoft could do to Windows to disable all MFC applications and only MFC applications, and if there was it would involve more work than simply not doing anything else with MFC.
    - px1999 2y ago
      The business model doesn't matter. I can write something with Microsoft tech and expect it with reasonable likelihood to work in 10 years (even their service-based stuff), but can't say the same about anything from Google. That alone stops me/my org buying stuff from Google.
      - fluoridation 2y ago
        I'm not contending that Microsoft and Google are equivalent in this regard, I'm saying that Microsoft does have a history of releasing technologies and then letting them stagnate.
    - pjmlp 2y ago
      Not only has MFC been recently updated to support HiDPI, it is still the best Microsoft GUI C++ development experience on Visual C++. And even if C++/CX and C++/WinRT aren't that great, with worse tooling than MFC and in maintenance mode, you can easilly create an application with them today. Hardly the same can be told of most Google technologies.
      - fluoridation 2y ago
        Fair enough, I retract MFC as an example.

by bri3d 2y ago

Besides Silverlight (which was supported all the way until the end of 2021!), you can still not only run but _write new applications_ using all of the listed technologies.

fluoridation 2y ago

That doesn't constitute support when it comes to development platforms. They've not received any updates in years or decades. What they've done is simply not remove the capability build capability from the toolchains. That is, not even the work that would be required to no longer support them in any way. Compare that to C#, which has evolved rapidly over the same time period.

Fidelix 2y ago
That's different from "killing" the product / technology, which is what Google does.
- fluoridation 2y ago
  Only because they operate different businesses. Google is primarily a service provider. They have few software products that are not designed to integrate with their servers. Many of Microsoft's businesses work fundamentally differently. There's nothing Microsoft could do to Windows to disable all MFC applications and only MFC applications, and if there was it would involve more work than simply not doing anything else with MFC.
  - px1999 2y ago
    The business model doesn't matter. I can write something with Microsoft tech and expect it with reasonable likelihood to work in 10 years (even their service-based stuff), but can't say the same about anything from Google. That alone stops me/my org buying stuff from Google.
    - fluoridation 2y ago
      I'm not contending that Microsoft and Google are equivalent in this regard, I'm saying that Microsoft does have a history of releasing technologies and then letting them stagnate.
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    Not only has MFC been recently updated to support HiDPI, it is still the best Microsoft GUI C++ development experience on Visual C++. And even if C++/CX and C++/WinRT aren't that great, with worse tooling than MFC and in maintenance mode, you can easilly create an application with them today. Hardly the same can be told of most Google technologies.
    - fluoridation 2y ago
      Fair enough, I retract MFC as an example.