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People are trying to remove middle-school grade social behavior against people that are overweight. When I see someone that’s overweight I should simply see a p

People are trying to remove middle-school grade social behavior against people that are overweight. When I see someone that’s overweight I should simply see a person. Their doctor and loved ones should highlight the issue because they want them to live better. But if they’re a stranger, coworker, or anything but a close friend it’s not appropriate for someone to step in and start commenting. They shouldn’t even think about that. Not to mention that people confuse health standards and beauty standards. Being a little rounded is of no health risk. And you can be very overweight (like a sumo wrestler) and very fit at the same time if you are both exercising and eating in excess.

psunavy03 2y ago
Pretty sure the long-term effects of sumo wrestling are not great for the wrestlers any more than they are for offensive linemen in American football.
- teaearlgraycold 2y ago
  Sure. But the point is there are some fat people that can do things your average skinny office worker never has. I’ve seen chubby guys cycling up mountains in the Bay Area like they do it every week. There’s an interesting article I read a while back where a woman (who was heavy in part due to muscle mass but also body fat) went to a personal trainer to improve her cycling performance. She had just cycled from SF to LA. Even though the trainer was a professional, certified and likely had a degree, he could not mentally shift from the idea that she was there just to lose weight. To be fair, carrying less weight will make your cycling performance improve. But from what I recall he was running it like a weight loss program and assumed she’d never been in a gym before. She had filled out a form with all of her exercise history and goals. I would have expected him to work up her back squat, weighted lunges, etc. At least as part of the program.
  - deadbabe 2y ago
    It doesn’t matter if some fat people are active, the fat is still hurting their bodies. How are their knees doing? How is the stress on their heart? Their arteries? When was the last time they could even stand with their arms hanging down straight at their sides instead of pushed out perpetually at an angle? When you’re fat for a long time, you forget what it’s like to be light weight, you forget how easy everything feels. Being fat is like walking around with a two 25 pound dumbbells strapped to your body everywhere you go. My fatter friends complain when we go to a dense concert or festival and I can just turn sideways to slip easily through crowds, leaving them behind. Trivial things like this is what you forget when your body has become too large.
Uvix 2y ago
Not to mention that said middle-school grade social behavior, if anything, will only make the problem worse.
- teaearlgraycold 2y ago
  Depends on the culture. I’m told that in Japan the shaming works. There you will get scolded by your boss for being overweight. There’s a law that explicitly brings weight-shaming into the workplace. Not that I think it’s the ideal. But it supposedly did cause a reduction in BMI. And many of those called out said they appreciated the pressure.

psunavy03 2y ago

Pretty sure the long-term effects of sumo wrestling are not great for the wrestlers any more than they are for offensive linemen in American football.

teaearlgraycold 2y ago
Sure. But the point is there are some fat people that can do things your average skinny office worker never has. I’ve seen chubby guys cycling up mountains in the Bay Area like they do it every week. There’s an interesting article I read a while back where a woman (who was heavy in part due to muscle mass but also body fat) went to a personal trainer to improve her cycling performance. She had just cycled from SF to LA. Even though the trainer was a professional, certified and likely had a degree, he could not mentally shift from the idea that she was there just to lose weight. To be fair, carrying less weight will make your cycling performance improve. But from what I recall he was running it like a weight loss program and assumed she’d never been in a gym before. She had filled out a form with all of her exercise history and goals. I would have expected him to work up her back squat, weighted lunges, etc. At least as part of the program.
- deadbabe 2y ago
  It doesn’t matter if some fat people are active, the fat is still hurting their bodies. How are their knees doing? How is the stress on their heart? Their arteries? When was the last time they could even stand with their arms hanging down straight at their sides instead of pushed out perpetually at an angle? When you’re fat for a long time, you forget what it’s like to be light weight, you forget how easy everything feels. Being fat is like walking around with a two 25 pound dumbbells strapped to your body everywhere you go. My fatter friends complain when we go to a dense concert or festival and I can just turn sideways to slip easily through crowds, leaving them behind. Trivial things like this is what you forget when your body has become too large.

Uvix 2y ago

Not to mention that said middle-school grade social behavior, if anything, will only make the problem worse.

teaearlgraycold 2y ago
Depends on the culture. I’m told that in Japan the shaming works. There you will get scolded by your boss for being overweight. There’s a law that explicitly brings weight-shaming into the workplace. Not that I think it’s the ideal. But it supposedly did cause a reduction in BMI. And many of those called out said they appreciated the pressure.