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More likely relates to diet. There was a recent WashU study directly linking high fructose diets to increased cancer. Cancer cells are vigorously growing, needs
by ethagknight 2y ago
More likely relates to diet. There was a recent WashU study directly linking high fructose diets to increased cancer. Cancer cells are vigorously growing, needs lots of available fuel, a diet full of corn syrup fuels both fat and cancer.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> a diet full of corn syrup fuels both fat and cancer Or sugar. Or modern fruits. The problem with HFCS isn't that it's got fructose (so does cane sugar) or is made from corn, it's that it's cheap sugar.
- enaaem 2y agoHow much fruit do you have to eat before it becomes harmful? I can imagine juice can easily be over consumed but solid fruit is very satiating.
- BobaFloutist 2y ago>solid fruit is very satiating. Very briefly.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> How much fruit do you have to eat before it becomes harmful? Unclear. The aforementioned study fed mice sugar water [1], and cautions against extending its findings to fruit as "natural fructose obtained from plants typically confers metabolic benefits due to its slower absorption rate and the presence of beneficial plant fiber and antioxidants." It does mention, however, that "human physiology...confronts challenges when metabolizing fructose beyond 25g/day." That's like a cup of grapes, a medium pear or half a mango [2]. [1] https://www.ijbs.com/v20p3480.pdf https://www.ijbs.com/v20p3480.pdf [2] https://www.webmd.com/diet/ss/slideshow-fruit-sugar https://www.webmd.com/diet/ss/slideshow-fruit-sugar
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- hollerith 2y agoI've stopped eating fruit (and carrots, which have fruit-like levels of sugar) with the exception of tart (i.e., less sugary) cherries out of a desire to limit my fructose intake. I was eating raspberries, too, which are much lower in sugar than most fruit, but stopped because of their high levels of oxalic acid, but I do expect to restart raspberries in a few years because I expect my ability to tolerate oxalic acid in my diet to improve slowly over the next few years. (In contrast, high-fructose foods including most fruit are probably gone for good.) Of course, I'm not asserting that everyone should do as I am doing. There is substantial variation between individuals here.
- homero 2y agoIt's funny all the modern fruit I see is bigger but dry and not sweet at all
- pengaru 2y agoAIUI cancer cells are also metabolically inflexible; they like glucose, not ketones.
- voisin 2y agoGood evidence for this found here: “Tripping over the Truth: The Metabolic Theory of Cancer”[0] [0] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23496164 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23496164
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> AIUI cancer cells are also metabolically inflexible; they like glucose, not ketones Is there a selection effect at play? As in, a person with high serum glucose levels will tend to have cancer that likes glucose? That would imply the solution isn't ketones per se, but changing the fuel from whatever the cancer grew up with.
- pengaru 2y agoiirc the talk I learned this from said there's simply not many cancer variants that don't need abundant glucose to grow tumors. That the whole defect stems from hijacking the energy side to fuel uncontrolled growth, and it needs glucose.
- circlefavshape 2y agoI know someone who tried to use keto to manage her bowel cancer, and died. Used to know rather than know I guess
- ifwinterco 2y agoYeah I see this take all the time and it's dangerous, it might have an element of truth but it's definitely dangerously simplistic. You can find advocates of low fat high carb diets also claiming that very low fat intakes improve cancer survivability. I'm sorry for your loss
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