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Am I alone in thinking the word “agentic” is dumb as shit? Most of these things seem to just be a system prompt and a tool that get invoked as part of a pipeli
by jncfhnb 2y ago
Am I alone in thinking the word “agentic” is dumb as shit?
Most of these things seem to just be a system prompt and a tool that get invoked as part of a pipeline. They’re hardly “agents”.
They’re modules.
- thomassmith65 2y agoIt's easier for consultants and sales people to sell to enterprise if the terminology is familiar but mysterious. Bad 1. installed Antivirus software 2. added screen-size CSS rules 3. copied 'Assets' harddrive to DropBox 4. edited homepage to include Bitcoin wallet address link 5. upgraded to ChatGPT Pro "Good" 1. Cyber-security defenses 2. Responsive Design implementation 3. Cloud Storage 4. Blockchain Technology gateway 5. Agentic enhancements
- endorphine 2y agoGeorge Carlin's "Euphimisms" comes to mind.
- kthartic 2y agoThese are great examples. Also an excellent technique for relaying project updates to non-technical managers
- xnx 2y agoControlling a browser in Project Mariner seems very agentic: https://youtu.be/Fs0t6SdODd8?t=86 https://youtu.be/Fs0t6SdODd8?t=86
- uludag 2y agoDefinitely not alone. With all the this money at stake, coining dumb terms like this might make you a pretty penny. It's like a meme that can be milked for monetization.
- Agentus 2y agoThe beauty of LLMs isn’t just these coding objects speak human vernacular but they can be concatenated with human vernacular prompts and that itself can be used as an input, command or output sensibly without necessarily causing error even if a series of inputs combinations weren't preprogrammed. I have an A.I. textbook that has agent terminology that was written preLLm days. agents are just autonomous ish code that loops on itself with some extra functionality. LLMs in their elegance can more easily out the box selfloop just on the basis concatenating language prompts, sensibly. They are almost agent ready out the box by this very elegant quality(the textbook agentic diagram is just a conceptual self perpetuation loop), except… Except they fail at a lot or get stuck at hiccups. But, here is a novel thought. What if an LLM becomes more agentic (ie more able to sustain autonomous chain prompts that do actions without a terminal failure) and less copilotee not by more complex controlling wrapper self perpetuation code, but by means of training the core llm itself to more fluidly function in agentic scenarios. a better agentically performing llm that isnt mislabeled with a bad buzzword might not reveal itself in its wrapper control code but through it just performing better in an typical agentic loop or environment conditions with whatever initiating prompt, control wrapper code, or pipeline that initiates its self perpetuation cycle.
- WA 2y agoGemini, too, for the sole reason that non-native speakers have no clue how to pronounce it.
- kaashif 2y agoAlso, people at NASA pronounce it two ways, even native speakers of English.
- purple-leafy 2y agopronounced: juh-meany .... right?
- coayer 2y agoI say jem-in-eye in my English accent, Google search says jeh·muh·nai
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- Havoc 2y ago>“agentic” is dumb as shit? It'll create endless consulting opportunities for projects that never go anywhere and add nothing of value unless you value rich consultants.
- sippeangelo 2y agoAside from sounding "dumb as shit", I also think it's the completely wrong abstraction. Every time I've split up work between multiple specialized LLM "agents", they've done an WAY worse job than one monolith LLM that had access to all the tools it needs and can "reason" about the whole task. All the common tricks, like creating a list of steps that are then executed by specialized agents in order, for example, fall flat as soon as one agent returns a result that contradicts the initial steps. It's simply a bandaid for short context sizes and LLMs that can't remain focused past the first few thousand tokens of prompt.