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>The same channel who said it's nato and the west's fault that Russia is invading Ukraine? I don't remember them saying that. I do remember them showing US pol

>The same channel who said it's nato and the west's fault that Russia is invading Ukraine? I don't remember them saying that. I do remember them showing US political and financial involvement in Ukraine. >Who also did a fluff piece on north Korea? Someone didn't get the humor and sarcasm I guess.

ttyprintk 2y ago
An AI summary of that channel’s Ukraine video does fall into a narrative I’ve seen in the West: 1. Eastern states joined NATO for defense 2. This redirected Russian aggression to Chechnya, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine 3. Thus, the invading forces must themselves be acting with circumspection about NATO This reasoning tends to prefer analysis rather than emphasize what invading armies do to civilians. We know what’s happening to civilians in each of those invasions. We do not know (and should not care) if each soldier has an opinion of NATO.
gruez 2y ago
>>The same channel who said it's nato and the west's fault that Russia is invading Ukraine? >I don't remember them saying that. I do remember them showing US political and financial involvement in Ukraine. They stopped short of saying it explicitly, but it was strongly implied. The whole video basically lists out all of russia's motivation for the war, and then concludes with "now there's a war in europe [...] if there was only someone who have predicted it, someone with power to stop it" followed by a few sound bites/clips strongly alluding to Western defense officials. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8
- Cumpiler69 2y ago
  I love it when people go off the beaten path to prove that wrong opinions about one unrelated topic somehow must automatically disprove true facts about a completely different topic. It's the playbook of trolls. Whataboutism at it's finest.
  - gruez 2y ago
    >It's the playbook of trolls. ...you say as you unilaterally assert that you're correct without trying to refute any of my previous points (ie. that the video didn't blame the west explicitly but strongly implied it).
0dayz 2y ago
>I don't remember them saying that. I do remember them showing US political and financial involvement in Ukraine. They intentionally leaves out sources they claim to have, they cut crucial parts of video evidence (such as Joe Biden's statement, which changes the entire statement) There's tons more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0p9-kjKdfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0p9-kjKdfY >Someone didn't get the humor and sarcasm I guess. By that logic then I guess glazing Nazi Germany is fine because it's just sarcasm & joke bro.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  There's tons more You need to understand that not everyone shares your addiction to YT's dopamine-jerking content feeds. In any case, no one has time to dig through that video to find whatever "evidence" you think is buried there.
  - 0dayz 2y ago
    >You need to understand that not everyone shares your addiction to YT's dopamine-jerking content feeds. In any case, no one has time to dig through that video to find whatever "evidence" you think is buried there. I can't help it if you can't watch a video without feeling as if it's meant to be some "dopamine rush" for you, that's a you problem. It does not in any way shape or form discard it from being evidence. Especially when I specifically pointed out 2 issues with the boyboy video, which I assume you also haven't watched (or does boyboy somehow get a pass?) which then begs the question of why you're even replying.
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      It just seemed weird that you thought nothing of pointing to a 48 minute video about mostly unrelated topics, as if anyone would actually fish through all that to get to the nuggets of pertinent information that you're suggesting are buried in there somewhere.

ttyprintk 2y ago

An AI summary of that channel’s Ukraine video does fall into a narrative I’ve seen in the West: 1. Eastern states joined NATO for defense 2. This redirected Russian aggression to Chechnya, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine 3. Thus, the invading forces must themselves be acting with circumspection about NATO This reasoning tends to prefer analysis rather than emphasize what invading armies do to civilians. We know what’s happening to civilians in each of those invasions. We do not know (and should not care) if each soldier has an opinion of NATO.

gruez 2y ago

>>The same channel who said it's nato and the west's fault that Russia is invading Ukraine? >I don't remember them saying that. I do remember them showing US political and financial involvement in Ukraine. They stopped short of saying it explicitly, but it was strongly implied. The whole video basically lists out all of russia's motivation for the war, and then concludes with "now there's a war in europe [...] if there was only someone who have predicted it, someone with power to stop it" followed by a few sound bites/clips strongly alluding to Western defense officials. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

Cumpiler69 2y ago
I love it when people go off the beaten path to prove that wrong opinions about one unrelated topic somehow must automatically disprove true facts about a completely different topic. It's the playbook of trolls. Whataboutism at it's finest.
- gruez 2y ago
  >It's the playbook of trolls. ...you say as you unilaterally assert that you're correct without trying to refute any of my previous points (ie. that the video didn't blame the west explicitly but strongly implied it).

0dayz 2y ago

>I don't remember them saying that. I do remember them showing US political and financial involvement in Ukraine. They intentionally leaves out sources they claim to have, they cut crucial parts of video evidence (such as Joe Biden's statement, which changes the entire statement) There's tons more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0p9-kjKdfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0p9-kjKdfY >Someone didn't get the humor and sarcasm I guess. By that logic then I guess glazing Nazi Germany is fine because it's just sarcasm & joke bro.

aguaviva 2y ago
There's tons more You need to understand that not everyone shares your addiction to YT's dopamine-jerking content feeds. In any case, no one has time to dig through that video to find whatever "evidence" you think is buried there.
- 0dayz 2y ago
  >You need to understand that not everyone shares your addiction to YT's dopamine-jerking content feeds. In any case, no one has time to dig through that video to find whatever "evidence" you think is buried there. I can't help it if you can't watch a video without feeling as if it's meant to be some "dopamine rush" for you, that's a you problem. It does not in any way shape or form discard it from being evidence. Especially when I specifically pointed out 2 issues with the boyboy video, which I assume you also haven't watched (or does boyboy somehow get a pass?) which then begs the question of why you're even replying.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    It just seemed weird that you thought nothing of pointing to a 48 minute video about mostly unrelated topics, as if anyone would actually fish through all that to get to the nuggets of pertinent information that you're suggesting are buried in there somewhere.