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US math education is extremely unequal. The private highschools, selective academies (Stuyvessant in NYC, Thomas Jefferson Highschool in Virginia, High Technolo

US math education is extremely unequal. The private highschools, selective academies (Stuyvessant in NYC, Thomas Jefferson Highschool in Virginia, High Technology High School in NJ, etc), and the public high schools of the wealthiest suburbs are much more stringent. There is a huge difference between your "average" US high school that might get 20 kids through AP Calc A, bad ones that might get none, and the good schools that get almost ALL of the students through at least AP Calc A or Stats and some through BC.

hintymad 2y ago
> US math education is extremely unequal. Yes! All the lefties are crying inequality, yet they miss the obvious: enforce high academic standards everywhere like many other countries do.
- aprilthird2021 2y ago
  Lefties often fill the ranks of elite private schools like the ones described above. There are a set of beliefs which one can hold personally because they are shielded from the consequences of living on that belief. Since the wealthy and liberal are not as dependent on society, they often voice opinions that are more transgressive (like removing advanced classes for "equality")
- LtWorf 2y ago
  I don't think USA's wokeism has anything to do with communism/socialism.
  - hintymad 2y ago
    The oppressor/oppressed framework seems shared by both
    - LtWorf 2y ago
      One's about changing things and one's about showing that you're morally superior.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Enforcing high school standards is exactly what "lefties" are trying to do, but it's undermined by school choice vouchers (about to become a lot more prominent). Instead we should follow Finland's example and get rid of private schools altogether.
  - reliabilityguy 2y ago
    > Enforcing high school standards is exactly what "lefties" are trying to do How? > but it's undermined by school choice vouchers How do school vouchers undermine enforcement of standards? > Instead we should follow Finland's example and get rid of private schools altogether. I fail to see what is the relationship between private schools and enforcement of standards
    - insane_dreamer 2y ago
      because private schools aren't regulated the way public schools are (it's one of the main reasons of them being private)
      - reliabilityguy 2y ago
        > because private schools aren't regulated the way public schools are (it's one of the main reasons of them being private) I am not sure I understand how this sentence addresses any of the question above.
Onavo 2y ago
What about the elite academies like Philip Exeter (and their sister schools)? How's the education there? They produced tons of tech alumni like Zuckerberg.
- hintymad 2y ago
  They are indeed grinders, and I consider families who go to such schools do push themselves. After all, they paid $40K+ a year for the education and the kids are either talented or are willing to prepare for the entrance test, and they are willing to take on the challenges given by the school. Besides, such schools are exceptions instead of norms.

hintymad 2y ago

> US math education is extremely unequal. Yes! All the lefties are crying inequality, yet they miss the obvious: enforce high academic standards everywhere like many other countries do.

aprilthird2021 2y ago
Lefties often fill the ranks of elite private schools like the ones described above. There are a set of beliefs which one can hold personally because they are shielded from the consequences of living on that belief. Since the wealthy and liberal are not as dependent on society, they often voice opinions that are more transgressive (like removing advanced classes for "equality")
LtWorf 2y ago
I don't think USA's wokeism has anything to do with communism/socialism.
- hintymad 2y ago
  The oppressor/oppressed framework seems shared by both
  - LtWorf 2y ago
    One's about changing things and one's about showing that you're morally superior.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
Enforcing high school standards is exactly what "lefties" are trying to do, but it's undermined by school choice vouchers (about to become a lot more prominent). Instead we should follow Finland's example and get rid of private schools altogether.
- reliabilityguy 2y ago
  > Enforcing high school standards is exactly what "lefties" are trying to do How? > but it's undermined by school choice vouchers How do school vouchers undermine enforcement of standards? > Instead we should follow Finland's example and get rid of private schools altogether. I fail to see what is the relationship between private schools and enforcement of standards
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    because private schools aren't regulated the way public schools are (it's one of the main reasons of them being private)
    - reliabilityguy 2y ago
      > because private schools aren't regulated the way public schools are (it's one of the main reasons of them being private) I am not sure I understand how this sentence addresses any of the question above.

Onavo 2y ago

What about the elite academies like Philip Exeter (and their sister schools)? How's the education there? They produced tons of tech alumni like Zuckerberg.

hintymad 2y ago
They are indeed grinders, and I consider families who go to such schools do push themselves. After all, they paid $40K+ a year for the education and the kids are either talented or are willing to prepare for the entrance test, and they are willing to take on the challenges given by the school. Besides, such schools are exceptions instead of norms.