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>We don't put enough money into our schools. Our teachers are incredibly overworked and underpaid. As others have told you, this is wrong. New York City spend

by TMWNN 2y ago

>We don't put enough money into our schools. Our teachers are incredibly overworked and underpaid. As others have told you, this is wrong. New York City spends more per student than anywhere else in the US. <https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-city-spend-on-each-student.html https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-c...> Baltimore, an incredibly poor and run-down city, spends the third most. #4-6 and #8 are all wealthy suburbs of Washington DC, but their schools are all far better than those of Baltimore or NYC on average, despite Baltimore spending slightly more per student and NYC spending 60-70% more.

bvirb 2y ago
Is there some way to normalize the amount spent on education per student with the need per student? NYC is also the most expensive place to live in the US, so conceivably the amount spent per student doesn't go as far towards their educational outcome. Baltimore is very poor, so conceivably the gap between the amount spent per student and the need per student is still high. Wealthy suburbs in Washington DC might already have so much support per student that their education system would do fine spending even less per student. Or I suppose in other words: do education spending numbers actually cover what it takes to provide good educational outcomes? And if not, and we wanted to specifically improve education outcomes, could increased education spending still do that by offsetting other deficits? In more concrete terms: if we did something like give schools way more money could they pay for more things like after school tutoring and recreational opportunities to improve educational outcomes that might be happening in places like wealthy suburbs of Washington DC but not as much in Baltimore?
shiroiushi 2y ago
NYC is one of the most expensive place in the world to live, so of course they need to spend more on students there. How much of that money actually goes to teacher salaries though? How much are teacher salaries there compared to other professions? Can teachers make more money by quitting and working as bus drivers or janitors or wearing costumes in Times Square? If the answer is yes, then the teachers are being vastly underpaid.

by TMWNN 2y ago

bvirb 2y ago

Is there some way to normalize the amount spent on education per student with the need per student? NYC is also the most expensive place to live in the US, so conceivably the amount spent per student doesn't go as far towards their educational outcome. Baltimore is very poor, so conceivably the gap between the amount spent per student and the need per student is still high. Wealthy suburbs in Washington DC might already have so much support per student that their education system would do fine spending even less per student. Or I suppose in other words: do education spending numbers actually cover what it takes to provide good educational outcomes? And if not, and we wanted to specifically improve education outcomes, could increased education spending still do that by offsetting other deficits? In more concrete terms: if we did something like give schools way more money could they pay for more things like after school tutoring and recreational opportunities to improve educational outcomes that might be happening in places like wealthy suburbs of Washington DC but not as much in Baltimore?

shiroiushi 2y ago

NYC is one of the most expensive place in the world to live, so of course they need to spend more on students there. How much of that money actually goes to teacher salaries though? How much are teacher salaries there compared to other professions? Can teachers make more money by quitting and working as bus drivers or janitors or wearing costumes in Times Square? If the answer is yes, then the teachers are being vastly underpaid.