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The Simpson’s paradox part is factual, and has been known for over a decade courtesy Steve Sailer, who is an immigration restrictionist. A fairer critique of th

by DAGdug 2y ago

The Simpson’s paradox part is factual, and has been known for over a decade courtesy Steve Sailer, who is an immigration restrictionist. A fairer critique of the poster is that they’re unoriginal (rather than that they’re blaming immigrants, which I didn’t see in this post).

bryanrasmussen 2y ago
> While US has excellent education, and immigrant children in America do better than their counterparts in their countries of origin, they don’t do as well as the modal group of white Americans, so as the composition changes... it doesn't say the immigrants are to blame, it just strongly implies that this could be a likely reason, furthermore for some reason to be an immigrant is to not be white which certainly was not the case when I immigrated to America.
- geraldwhen 2y ago
  https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2020/08/20/facts-on-u-s-immigrants/ https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2020/08/20/fa... American immigrants are no longer white, overwhelmingly.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    Perhaps that is related to all the rationalizations of white supremacy.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  A more plausible interpretation is that the education system is failing immigrant families currently. This has the benefit of both matching the evidence and not having racist implications.
mmooss 2y ago
> courtesy Steve Sailer, who is an immigration restrictionist That doesn't make this argument credible. Is there any credible source? > rather than that they’re blaming immigrants, which I didn’t see in this post We know well that the talking points of racism are formed to create ambiguity and use dog whistles. That goes back half a century and probably much longer. These are the talking points.
- DAGdug 2y ago
  I didn’t suggest this makes the argument credible. In fact, I fully expect that it should make one more skeptical of the argument, which is part of the reason I put that in there.
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by DAGdug 2y ago

bryanrasmussen 2y ago

> While US has excellent education, and immigrant children in America do better than their counterparts in their countries of origin, they don’t do as well as the modal group of white Americans, so as the composition changes... it doesn't say the immigrants are to blame, it just strongly implies that this could be a likely reason, furthermore for some reason to be an immigrant is to not be white which certainly was not the case when I immigrated to America.

geraldwhen 2y ago
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2020/08/20/facts-on-u-s-immigrants/ https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2020/08/20/fa... American immigrants are no longer white, overwhelmingly.
- mmooss 2y ago
  Perhaps that is related to all the rationalizations of white supremacy.
bee_rider 2y ago
A more plausible interpretation is that the education system is failing immigrant families currently. This has the benefit of both matching the evidence and not having racist implications.

mmooss 2y ago

> courtesy Steve Sailer, who is an immigration restrictionist That doesn't make this argument credible. Is there any credible source? > rather than that they’re blaming immigrants, which I didn’t see in this post We know well that the talking points of racism are formed to create ambiguity and use dog whistles. That goes back half a century and probably much longer. These are the talking points.

DAGdug 2y ago
I didn’t suggest this makes the argument credible. In fact, I fully expect that it should make one more skeptical of the argument, which is part of the reason I put that in there.
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