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> it is because our schools are underfunded Do you have any data to back this up? NYC spends about $40,000/student (including teaches benefits, or $23,000/stu

> it is because our schools are underfunded Do you have any data to back this up? NYC spends about $40,000/student (including teaches benefits, or $23,000/student without benefits and capital expenses) on average and the results are, how do I put it, suboptimal. Schools in the London spend $9,000/student. The CoL between NYC and London is similar. So, how much more money should we pour into DOEs to achieve better results? In other words: our schools fail not because of the lack of funding (on average, some probably are worse because they have no money), but for totally different reasons.

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LargeWu 2y ago
I think it could be argued the problem isn't schools, but families. Or, more precisely, a large subset of families with school aged children do not value education, whether out of apathy or survival. Educational outcomes across socioeconomic strata vary greatly in the USA. Schools cannot educate kids that are not invested in their own education. I think if you corrected for household income, the disparities between NYC and London would be significantly smaller. My hypothesis is that students from upper- and middle-class households would come out looking fine, but lower-class students would lag significantly.
nostrademons 2y ago
It’s motivation. Kids aren’t stupid. They see their elders (Millennials) outperform in school, all go to college, get buried in student debt, and then have no jobs or money to show for it. When it comes to making a memecoin and shilling it for a quick $50k in profit, you’d be amazed at how many subpar students can very quickly master some pretty complex technologies if there’s a quick buck involved.
- slt2021 2y ago
  Capitalism/invisible market hand is reallocating labor resources in the most efficient way (thanks to low interest rates)
shiroiushi 2y ago
>NYC spends about $40,000/student >So, how much more money should we pour into DOEs to achieve better results? How much of that money is going to teacher salaries, and how much to administrator salaries? I'm hearing crazy stories these days about American schools, that there's more administrators than teachers now. Pouring more money into schools doesn't help if it just goes to a bunch of overpaid administrators who do nothing, and nothing goes to the actual teachers.
- reliabilityguy 2y ago
  well, the ratio of admin to teacher has nothing to do with the $$$/seat. Moreover, giving more money does not prevent admin bloat.

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LargeWu 2y ago

I think it could be argued the problem isn't schools, but families. Or, more precisely, a large subset of families with school aged children do not value education, whether out of apathy or survival. Educational outcomes across socioeconomic strata vary greatly in the USA. Schools cannot educate kids that are not invested in their own education. I think if you corrected for household income, the disparities between NYC and London would be significantly smaller. My hypothesis is that students from upper- and middle-class households would come out looking fine, but lower-class students would lag significantly.

nostrademons 2y ago

It’s motivation. Kids aren’t stupid. They see their elders (Millennials) outperform in school, all go to college, get buried in student debt, and then have no jobs or money to show for it. When it comes to making a memecoin and shilling it for a quick $50k in profit, you’d be amazed at how many subpar students can very quickly master some pretty complex technologies if there’s a quick buck involved.

slt2021 2y ago
Capitalism/invisible market hand is reallocating labor resources in the most efficient way (thanks to low interest rates)

shiroiushi 2y ago

>NYC spends about $40,000/student >So, how much more money should we pour into DOEs to achieve better results? How much of that money is going to teacher salaries, and how much to administrator salaries? I'm hearing crazy stories these days about American schools, that there's more administrators than teachers now. Pouring more money into schools doesn't help if it just goes to a bunch of overpaid administrators who do nothing, and nothing goes to the actual teachers.

reliabilityguy 2y ago
well, the ratio of admin to teacher has nothing to do with the $$$/seat. Moreover, giving more money does not prevent admin bloat.