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The article seems to be pushing a Covid-causation narrative without any evidence. Covid was a global pandemic, the claim that it somehow dissproportionately aff

The article seems to be pushing a Covid-causation narrative without any evidence. Covid was a global pandemic, the claim that it somehow dissproportionately affected the US requires evidence.

addicted232 2y ago
And that’s even sillier considering the strictest parts of the US had much more lax regulations than much of the rest of the world.
dyauspitr 2y ago
It seems like there was a drop across the board for the most part though.
micromacrofoot 2y ago
We're in the top 10 for international death rates related to covid so "disproportionately affected" isn't without some evidence
- zug_zug 2y ago
  Probably only because we reported it better.
  - micromacrofoot 2y ago
    it's not, it's been years since, it's not a mystery
    - zug_zug 2y ago
      I don't think you understand. USA had exponentially higher reported deaths because we tested probably 10 to 100x as much as your average country.
      - micromacrofoot 2y ago
        I understand very well, you're spreading common misinformation that was debunked years ago. When we look at the overall death rate during the pandemic (i.e., completely disregarding covid tests), it's still true that the US had a much higher increase in deaths than most of the world. Even if you limit this to places where reporting is fairly accurate (the first world, or even just rich European countries), it's still true. The "because we tested more" line is complete nonsense, we can literally count the people missing and end up with a very similar result.
        zug_zug 2y ago
        So you're saying the US outpaced areas that didn't have vaccine and didn't even take social distancing seriously? Are we controlling for age and health of the population then?
  - peterfirefly 2y ago
    Morbid obesity and type 2 diabetes are risk factors. Americans are (in)famous for both.
honkycat 2y ago
other countries did social distancing and got it out of the way much faster. We drug it out for years due to incompetence.
ACow_Adonis 2y ago
Literally the article: "The extent of the decline seems to be driven by the lowest performing students losing more ground, a worrying trend that predates the pandemic." "The TIMSS results echoed the 2022 findings of the National Assessment of Educational Progress or NAEP, which saw major declines in math scores among both fourth and eighth graders. American students’ scores actually started to decline before the pandemic for reasons that are not entirely clear." "This gap between high- and low-performing students started to widen before the pandemic for reasons that are unclear. Since then, other research into post-pandemic academic performance has found widening gaps across race and income, even as many middle and higher income students are doing well." Hacker News commenter: "The article seems to be pushing a Covid-causation narrative without any evidence."

The article seems to be pushing a Covid-causation narrative without any evidence. Covid was a global pandemic, the claim that it somehow dissproportionately affected the US requires evidence.

addicted232 2y ago

And that’s even sillier considering the strictest parts of the US had much more lax regulations than much of the rest of the world.

dyauspitr 2y ago

It seems like there was a drop across the board for the most part though.

micromacrofoot 2y ago

We're in the top 10 for international death rates related to covid so "disproportionately affected" isn't without some evidence

zug_zug 2y ago
Probably only because we reported it better.
- micromacrofoot 2y ago
  it's not, it's been years since, it's not a mystery
  - zug_zug 2y ago
    I don't think you understand. USA had exponentially higher reported deaths because we tested probably 10 to 100x as much as your average country.
    - micromacrofoot 2y ago
      I understand very well, you're spreading common misinformation that was debunked years ago. When we look at the overall death rate during the pandemic (i.e., completely disregarding covid tests), it's still true that the US had a much higher increase in deaths than most of the world. Even if you limit this to places where reporting is fairly accurate (the first world, or even just rich European countries), it's still true. The "because we tested more" line is complete nonsense, we can literally count the people missing and end up with a very similar result.
      - zug_zug 2y ago
        So you're saying the US outpaced areas that didn't have vaccine and didn't even take social distancing seriously? Are we controlling for age and health of the population then?
- peterfirefly 2y ago
  Morbid obesity and type 2 diabetes are risk factors. Americans are (in)famous for both.

honkycat 2y ago

other countries did social distancing and got it out of the way much faster. We drug it out for years due to incompetence.

ACow_Adonis 2y ago

Literally the article: "The extent of the decline seems to be driven by the lowest performing students losing more ground, a worrying trend that predates the pandemic." "The TIMSS results echoed the 2022 findings of the National Assessment of Educational Progress or NAEP, which saw major declines in math scores among both fourth and eighth graders. American students’ scores actually started to decline before the pandemic for reasons that are not entirely clear." "This gap between high- and low-performing students started to widen before the pandemic for reasons that are unclear. Since then, other research into post-pandemic academic performance has found widening gaps across race and income, even as many middle and higher income students are doing well." Hacker News commenter: "The article seems to be pushing a Covid-causation narrative without any evidence."