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> Although, anti-tracking in general is basically fighting a losing battle. Go to https://amiunique.org/ https://amiunique.org/ and you'll see why. The goal sh

> Although, anti-tracking in general is basically fighting a losing battle. Go to https://amiunique.org/ https://amiunique.org/ and you'll see why. The goal shouldn't be to appear non-unique. There are too many little things that will out you. Even if you somehow account for every single one of them today your next browser update could enable more and you can't trust that amiunique.org is looking at every identifying data point either. It's an arms race you're going to lose. What you want is to be differently unique for each website you visit. Even better if you have JS disabled by default and sites can't collect 90% of the data points your browser exposes at all. The best protection you could get would be to change up IP addresses via VPN and randomize your user-agent and other tells.

kube-system 2y ago
> Even better if you have JS disabled by default and sites can't collect 90% of the data points your browser exposes at all. There's two gigantic issues with that: 1. Most websites won't work 2. Most people like websites to work, and so they have JS turned on. If you don't, you'll stick out like a sore thumb.
- autoexec 2y ago
  You'd be surprised at how many websites work just fine with JS disabled, at least in terms of providing the content you want. Menus/navigation might not work, and I wouldn't even attempt online shopping without JS, but enough websites still manage to display basic text and images without JS that it's a surprising annoyance when they fail to. Sticking out like a sore thumb isn't a problem as long as you look like a different person's sore thumb to the next website.
  - kube-system 2y ago
    > Sticking out like a sore thumb isn't a problem as long as you look like a different person's thumb to the next website. Being consistently unique is okay as long as the tracking party is simply generating programmatic hashes. But if you're always unique, but in a specific way, it doesn't matter. The total amount of entropy matters. > I wouldn't even attempt online shopping without JS, So, a nonstarter for basically all normal internet users.
  - pmontra 2y ago
    All of Amazon.com works with their adsystem domain disabled by uMatrix. Only about half of their almost 100 js files are needed to browse products.
  - mywittyname 2y ago
    I get by using no-script universally and it's rare that I need to allow JS for more than 2-3 domains to get a site fully functional. Usually it's limited to site, and site-cdn.
    - autoexec 2y ago
      It's also nice that with no-script and uBlock origin that it only takes a couple clicks to whitelist something and even then you only need to do it once and it can remember it for the next time. You can also use add-ons like LocalCDN so that a lot of commonly used JS can be used without a remote connection.
pessimizer 2y ago
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- mywittyname 2y ago
  This happens on my phone (Safari) way more than my laptop browser running NoScript.
- autoexec 2y ago
  I've yet to be banned by cloudflare but they will sometimes harass me with challenges that require JS to run. Usually that's just an annoyance, but I often have to investigate questionable and outright malicious websites for work and some of them have started to use cloudflare so that you're forced to allow JS for the evil domain just to get past cloudflare's checks before you can even see the harmful website which then wants to use JS against you. Cloudflare is an affront to the philosophy of the internet and a menace.

kube-system 2y ago

> Even better if you have JS disabled by default and sites can't collect 90% of the data points your browser exposes at all. There's two gigantic issues with that: 1. Most websites won't work 2. Most people like websites to work, and so they have JS turned on. If you don't, you'll stick out like a sore thumb.

autoexec 2y ago
You'd be surprised at how many websites work just fine with JS disabled, at least in terms of providing the content you want. Menus/navigation might not work, and I wouldn't even attempt online shopping without JS, but enough websites still manage to display basic text and images without JS that it's a surprising annoyance when they fail to. Sticking out like a sore thumb isn't a problem as long as you look like a different person's sore thumb to the next website.
- kube-system 2y ago
  > Sticking out like a sore thumb isn't a problem as long as you look like a different person's thumb to the next website. Being consistently unique is okay as long as the tracking party is simply generating programmatic hashes. But if you're always unique, but in a specific way, it doesn't matter. The total amount of entropy matters. > I wouldn't even attempt online shopping without JS, So, a nonstarter for basically all normal internet users.
- pmontra 2y ago
  All of Amazon.com works with their adsystem domain disabled by uMatrix. Only about half of their almost 100 js files are needed to browse products.
- mywittyname 2y ago
  I get by using no-script universally and it's rare that I need to allow JS for more than 2-3 domains to get a site fully functional. Usually it's limited to site, and site-cdn.
  - autoexec 2y ago
    It's also nice that with no-script and uBlock origin that it only takes a couple clicks to whitelist something and even then you only need to do it once and it can remember it for the next time. You can also use add-ons like LocalCDN so that a lot of commonly used JS can be used without a remote connection.

pessimizer 2y ago

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mywittyname 2y ago
This happens on my phone (Safari) way more than my laptop browser running NoScript.
autoexec 2y ago
I've yet to be banned by cloudflare but they will sometimes harass me with challenges that require JS to run. Usually that's just an annoyance, but I often have to investigate questionable and outright malicious websites for work and some of them have started to use cloudflare so that you're forced to allow JS for the evil domain just to get past cloudflare's checks before you can even see the harmful website which then wants to use JS against you. Cloudflare is an affront to the philosophy of the internet and a menace.