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Is there anyway they can just compromise on not infringing on the musician’s copyright instead of bankrupting the internet archive?

duxup 2y ago
What is the Internet Archive's current position on all this? The Internet Archive's "National Emergency Library" seemed legally almost suicidal. It made me wonder who is calling the shots there and what their rationale is. Are they looking to cut a deal on this topic?
- mdp2021 2y ago
  > legally almost suicidal A typical consolidated radical device to raise awareness.
  - duxup 2y ago
    I “awareness” is all to often the last excuse for genuinely poor choices.
    - mdp2021 2y ago
      How do you know which is which. Public suicide is often the last resort of calling attention. If you are asking "Why would they do that?" the answer can be that it is an act of protest so that the public rises. The latter (hope in a public rising for an ideal) will probably be the bad bet, the «poor [judgement]». Sometimes it comes out of despair.
      - duxup 2y ago
        Was it an act of protest intended to get into ... a guaranteed loss legal battle? Even I, someone inclined to take up the banner of IA thought the whole thing raised serious questions about their decision making as an organization. That's not a good thing.
        mdp2021 2y ago
        > a guaranteed loss legal battle Some people may think that the loss of today will cause the upheaval of tomorrow. > Was it That I don't know. You look and try to make sense of it. You formulate hypotheses.
faeranne 2y ago
Part of a library's primary purposes is the preservation of history and culture. In the modern cycle, one of a company's largest competitors is their own history and back catalog. Destruction of historical artifacts is becoming necessary to ensure customers keep coming back, as we have reached a point of diminishing returns at most corporate scales. If a corporation's motive is to destroy history, and a library's goal is to preserve, there is no compromise.

duxup 2y ago

What is the Internet Archive's current position on all this? The Internet Archive's "National Emergency Library" seemed legally almost suicidal. It made me wonder who is calling the shots there and what their rationale is. Are they looking to cut a deal on this topic?

mdp2021 2y ago
> legally almost suicidal A typical consolidated radical device to raise awareness.
- duxup 2y ago
  I “awareness” is all to often the last excuse for genuinely poor choices.
  - mdp2021 2y ago
    How do you know which is which. Public suicide is often the last resort of calling attention. If you are asking "Why would they do that?" the answer can be that it is an act of protest so that the public rises. The latter (hope in a public rising for an ideal) will probably be the bad bet, the «poor [judgement]». Sometimes it comes out of despair.
    - duxup 2y ago
      Was it an act of protest intended to get into ... a guaranteed loss legal battle? Even I, someone inclined to take up the banner of IA thought the whole thing raised serious questions about their decision making as an organization. That's not a good thing.
      - mdp2021 2y ago
        > a guaranteed loss legal battle Some people may think that the loss of today will cause the upheaval of tomorrow. > Was it That I don't know. You look and try to make sense of it. You formulate hypotheses.

faeranne 2y ago

Part of a library's primary purposes is the preservation of history and culture. In the modern cycle, one of a company's largest competitors is their own history and back catalog. Destruction of historical artifacts is becoming necessary to ensure customers keep coming back, as we have reached a point of diminishing returns at most corporate scales. If a corporation's motive is to destroy history, and a library's goal is to preserve, there is no compromise.