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> Yes, I'm questioning if high fructose corn syrup is worse for the body than table sugar. Study is from Sweden. I think high fructose corn syrup may be a Nort

> Yes, I'm questioning if high fructose corn syrup is worse for the body than table sugar. Study is from Sweden. I think high fructose corn syrup may be a North American thing.

Mistletoe 2y ago
>Because of its low cost and long shelf-life, HFCS is used widely in manufacturing many food products, including candy, throughout the United States. However, due to strict EU regulations, HFCS is banned in much of Europe, including Sweden.
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  Could HFCS become a Schedule I substance regulated by the DEA?
  - oblio 2y ago
    Under the new administration the DEA (and FDA, etc) risks going extinct.
    - adastra22 2y ago
      Have a single source to back that up?
      - TJSomething 2y ago
        I think the evidence merely suggests that his DEA will be ineffective. His initial pick for head of the DEA, Florida sheriff Chad Chronister, went two days [0] from being announced to be being "pulled out" on account of his lack of experience with the border and his arrest of a megachurch pastor for COVID public gathering rule violation [1]. My assumption is that the GP expects that it will be gutted by the Department of Government Efficiency and/or be significantly laid off via Schedule F conversion [2]. However, rules made earlier this year by the OPM should limit that specific method of getting rid of civil servants [3]. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/politics/chad-chronister-trump-dea-withdraws/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/politics/chad-chronister-trum... [1] https://apnews.com/article/chad-chronister-trump-withdrawing-nominee-032bd91a5ef447e820e2b1f63e50861e https://apnews.com/article/chad-chronister-trump-withdrawing... [2] https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-presidency-schedule-f-federal-employees https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-presidency-schedule-f... [3] https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/04/opm-issues-final-rule-schedule-f-protections/395463/ https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/04/opm-issues-final-r...
    - rqtwteye 2y ago
      The DEA may grow because they may start the war on drugs back up. FDA and especially EPA are definitely at risk.
- LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
  > due to strict EU regulations, HFCS is banned in much of Europe, including Sweden. May be the case for Sweden, but the 'strict EU regulations' ceased to exist in 2017. I'd guess that applies to 'much of Europe' too, then. That aside, we always had https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_sugar_syrup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_sugar_syrup , which is frowned upon by many.
jillesvangurp 2y ago
> I think high fructose corn syrup may be a North American thing It is. It's not a common ingredient here in Europe or most places in the world. Corn syrup is a weird side effect of subsidized corn farming in the US. This causes all sorts of health issues in the population. Anyway, you'd struggle to find it in supermarkets or in food outside the US. Even coca cola doesn't use corn syrup in it's beverages outside the US. As far as I know, there is no major taste difference and I've never heard any US people complain about their coke tasting a bit off outside the US. But I don't drink cola that often myself.
- jdougan 2y ago
  US people who have expressed opinions on the matter near me claim to like the taste of Coca Cola from other countries better. Specifically Mexican Coke, though I've heard similar sentiments with Canadian Coke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Coke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Coke
- bluGill 2y ago
  Corn syrup isn't about corn subsidies, it is about sugar. Sugar has large tariffs which makes core syrup cheaper in the US.
- dylan604 2y ago
  > As far as I know, there is no major taste difference and I've never heard any US people complain about their coke tasting a bit off outside the US. Apparently, you are not well informed about the happenings across the pond. It is well known that Coke made in Mexico uses sugar, and it is a known thing in the US to get Mexican Coke. There used to be a small plant in Dublin, Texas that made Dr. Pepper with sugar that was a well known for the different taste. Eventually Dr. Pepper won it's case against the Dublin plant and it is no longer available. To claim that there's no taste difference between sugar vs HCFS just shows you're not well informed on the topic.
  - rileymat2 2y ago
    It is not straightforward, psychology plays a big part in perception. https://www.seriouseats.com/coke-vs-mexican-coke#toc-what-does-it-mean https://www.seriouseats.com/coke-vs-mexican-coke#toc-what-do... > Regardless of what was actually in the serving containers, people stuck by their original choice. Those who preferred what really was the Mexican Coke the first time (we'll call these guys the Mexico Boosters) unanimously picked the Coke that I told them was the Mexican Coke the second time, whether it really was or was not. Even when the containers were completely removed from the test and the Coke was served in plastic cups, the Coke labeled as Mexican was picked by the Mexico Boosters every time.

> Yes, I'm questioning if high fructose corn syrup is worse for the body than table sugar. Study is from Sweden. I think high fructose corn syrup may be a North American thing.

Mistletoe 2y ago

>Because of its low cost and long shelf-life, HFCS is used widely in manufacturing many food products, including candy, throughout the United States. However, due to strict EU regulations, HFCS is banned in much of Europe, including Sweden.

yieldcrv 2y ago
Could HFCS become a Schedule I substance regulated by the DEA?
- oblio 2y ago
  Under the new administration the DEA (and FDA, etc) risks going extinct.
  - adastra22 2y ago
    Have a single source to back that up?
    - TJSomething 2y ago
      I think the evidence merely suggests that his DEA will be ineffective. His initial pick for head of the DEA, Florida sheriff Chad Chronister, went two days [0] from being announced to be being "pulled out" on account of his lack of experience with the border and his arrest of a megachurch pastor for COVID public gathering rule violation [1]. My assumption is that the GP expects that it will be gutted by the Department of Government Efficiency and/or be significantly laid off via Schedule F conversion [2]. However, rules made earlier this year by the OPM should limit that specific method of getting rid of civil servants [3]. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/politics/chad-chronister-trump-dea-withdraws/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/politics/chad-chronister-trum... [1] https://apnews.com/article/chad-chronister-trump-withdrawing-nominee-032bd91a5ef447e820e2b1f63e50861e https://apnews.com/article/chad-chronister-trump-withdrawing... [2] https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-presidency-schedule-f-federal-employees https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-presidency-schedule-f... [3] https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/04/opm-issues-final-rule-schedule-f-protections/395463/ https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/04/opm-issues-final-r...
  - rqtwteye 2y ago
    The DEA may grow because they may start the war on drugs back up. FDA and especially EPA are definitely at risk.
LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
> due to strict EU regulations, HFCS is banned in much of Europe, including Sweden. May be the case for Sweden, but the 'strict EU regulations' ceased to exist in 2017. I'd guess that applies to 'much of Europe' too, then. That aside, we always had https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_sugar_syrup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_sugar_syrup , which is frowned upon by many.

jillesvangurp 2y ago

> I think high fructose corn syrup may be a North American thing It is. It's not a common ingredient here in Europe or most places in the world. Corn syrup is a weird side effect of subsidized corn farming in the US. This causes all sorts of health issues in the population. Anyway, you'd struggle to find it in supermarkets or in food outside the US. Even coca cola doesn't use corn syrup in it's beverages outside the US. As far as I know, there is no major taste difference and I've never heard any US people complain about their coke tasting a bit off outside the US. But I don't drink cola that often myself.

jdougan 2y ago
US people who have expressed opinions on the matter near me claim to like the taste of Coca Cola from other countries better. Specifically Mexican Coke, though I've heard similar sentiments with Canadian Coke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Coke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Coke
bluGill 2y ago
Corn syrup isn't about corn subsidies, it is about sugar. Sugar has large tariffs which makes core syrup cheaper in the US.
dylan604 2y ago
> As far as I know, there is no major taste difference and I've never heard any US people complain about their coke tasting a bit off outside the US. Apparently, you are not well informed about the happenings across the pond. It is well known that Coke made in Mexico uses sugar, and it is a known thing in the US to get Mexican Coke. There used to be a small plant in Dublin, Texas that made Dr. Pepper with sugar that was a well known for the different taste. Eventually Dr. Pepper won it's case against the Dublin plant and it is no longer available. To claim that there's no taste difference between sugar vs HCFS just shows you're not well informed on the topic.
- rileymat2 2y ago
  It is not straightforward, psychology plays a big part in perception. https://www.seriouseats.com/coke-vs-mexican-coke#toc-what-does-it-mean https://www.seriouseats.com/coke-vs-mexican-coke#toc-what-do... > Regardless of what was actually in the serving containers, people stuck by their original choice. Those who preferred what really was the Mexican Coke the first time (we'll call these guys the Mexico Boosters) unanimously picked the Coke that I told them was the Mexican Coke the second time, whether it really was or was not. Even when the containers were completely removed from the test and the Coke was served in plastic cups, the Coke labeled as Mexican was picked by the Mexico Boosters every time.