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What role did the CEO who was killed play in that debate 15 years ago? Why are you still shifting blame from the politicians who created this system? They didn

by avalys 2y ago

What role did the CEO who was killed play in that debate 15 years ago? Why are you still shifting blame from the politicians who created this system? They didn’t have to listen to the healthcare industry. They are accountable to the public. They got voted into office and they put this system in place. Of course the healthcare CEOs are going to argue in their own interest - but they don’t call the shots here! The politicians do.

acdha 2y ago
A better question would be why you’re trying so hard to exonerate some of the richest and most powerful people in the country. Trying to blame nebulous politicians without thinking about how they got elected or what they were asked to do legislatively, or how much public opinion is shaped by mass communications and the status quo, feels like a joke about a physicist trying to say another field shouldn’t exist because their “assume a perfectly spherical cow” thought exercise wasn’t too complicated.
- avalys 2y ago
  The guy who was killed, with annual compensation of $10M, is one of the richest and most powerful people in the country? There are FAANG ICs making more than that.
  - astrange 2y ago
    The shooter is from one of the richest families in Maryland and is richer than the guy he shot. His cousin is a state congressman.
  - bigtex88 2y ago
    There may be a few IC's who make that amount but they do not wield nearly the same amount of power as the CEO of one of the largest healthcare companies in the country.
  - acdha 2y ago
    Do those FAANG ICs set policy for the largest healthcare company in the world? I don’t know why you’re so committed to trying to dismiss the idea that the policies his company sets have produced many angry customers but it’s not unreasonable for people to think that a CEO has some control over policy in a way that those ICs at adtech companies do not.
- Wowfunhappy 2y ago
  I'm not the GP and in fact I don't agree with the GP, but I really don't think anyone should have to explain why they are defending someone who they think is innocent, regardless of how much money that person does or does not have.
  - acdha 2y ago
    This isn’t a criminal case. They’re trying to say this is just like any other unhappy customer, ignoring the life-altering outcomes healthcare problems have unlike most other industries or how much more Americans pay for lower-quality, high-stress service. Trying to understand why so many people were conflicted about a murder without understanding that context is like trying to explain what’s going on in Gaza while refusing to consider the role religion played.
Epa095 2y ago
If you are willing to shift the blame from the CEOs, why stop by shifting it one level? Why not shift it all the way to the top, to the voters who voted in the politicians? The health insurance industry is a modern example of the banality of evil, and there is enough blame to go around.
- phkahler 2y ago
  Hey, why not blame the shareholders. If you own a mutual fund that may be you! ... or me. The irony of people funcking themselves over via this route is kinda funny.

by avalys 2y ago

acdha 2y ago

A better question would be why you’re trying so hard to exonerate some of the richest and most powerful people in the country. Trying to blame nebulous politicians without thinking about how they got elected or what they were asked to do legislatively, or how much public opinion is shaped by mass communications and the status quo, feels like a joke about a physicist trying to say another field shouldn’t exist because their “assume a perfectly spherical cow” thought exercise wasn’t too complicated.

avalys 2y ago
The guy who was killed, with annual compensation of $10M, is one of the richest and most powerful people in the country? There are FAANG ICs making more than that.
- astrange 2y ago
  The shooter is from one of the richest families in Maryland and is richer than the guy he shot. His cousin is a state congressman.
- bigtex88 2y ago
  There may be a few IC's who make that amount but they do not wield nearly the same amount of power as the CEO of one of the largest healthcare companies in the country.
- acdha 2y ago
  Do those FAANG ICs set policy for the largest healthcare company in the world? I don’t know why you’re so committed to trying to dismiss the idea that the policies his company sets have produced many angry customers but it’s not unreasonable for people to think that a CEO has some control over policy in a way that those ICs at adtech companies do not.
Wowfunhappy 2y ago
I'm not the GP and in fact I don't agree with the GP, but I really don't think anyone should have to explain why they are defending someone who they think is innocent, regardless of how much money that person does or does not have.
- acdha 2y ago
  This isn’t a criminal case. They’re trying to say this is just like any other unhappy customer, ignoring the life-altering outcomes healthcare problems have unlike most other industries or how much more Americans pay for lower-quality, high-stress service. Trying to understand why so many people were conflicted about a murder without understanding that context is like trying to explain what’s going on in Gaza while refusing to consider the role religion played.

Epa095 2y ago

If you are willing to shift the blame from the CEOs, why stop by shifting it one level? Why not shift it all the way to the top, to the voters who voted in the politicians? The health insurance industry is a modern example of the banality of evil, and there is enough blame to go around.

phkahler 2y ago
Hey, why not blame the shareholders. If you own a mutual fund that may be you! ... or me. The irony of people funcking themselves over via this route is kinda funny.