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Technically it's amazing that this is possible at all. Yet I don't see how the world is better off for it on net. Aside from eliminating jobs in FX/filming/acti

Technically it's amazing that this is possible at all. Yet I don't see how the world is better off for it on net. Aside from eliminating jobs in FX/filming/acting/set design/etc, what do we really gain? Amateur filmmakers can be more powerful? How about we put the same money into a fund for filmmakers to access. The negatives are plentiful, from the mundane reduction of our media to monolithic simulacra to putting the nail in the coffin for truth to exist unchallenged, let alone the 'fine tunes' that will continue to come for deepfakes that are literal (sexual) harassment. Humans are not built for this power to be in the hands of everyone with low friction.

JPKab 2y ago
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- jjmarr 2y ago
  The Ancient Egyptian god Thoth invented writing and presented it to the King: "This invention, O king," said Thoth, "will make the Egyptians wiser and will improve their memories; for it is an elixir of memory and wisdom that I have discovered." The king replied: "This invention will produce forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it, because they will not practice their memory. Their trust in writing, produced by external characters which are no part of themselves, will discourage the use of their own memory within them. "You have invented an elixir not of memory, but of reminding; and you offer your pupils the appearance of wisdom, not true wisdom, for they will read many things without instruction and will therefore seem to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant and hard to get along with, since they are not wise, but only appear wise."
bamboozled 2y ago
Humans are not built for this power to be in the hands of everyone with low friction Now we have this with social media, everyone is their own little FSB propaganda machine…yay
washadjeffmad 2y ago
I've taken to calling the digital artists I work with "the old masters" in light of the flood of inexpert, low effort AGI content. And they do use generative AI, pretty liberally for concept work and reference, but they know what they're doing and can turn it into great things. I thought we lost a lot in the transition from analog to digital media, but that doesn't mean there's not a peak to any modern craft, just that there hasn't been a unified or named movement highlighting the best and worst, outside of social media algorithms.
sumedh 2y ago
> Amateur filmmakers can be more powerful? YouTube turned everyone into broadcasters. Sora could help bring countless untold stories to life, straight from the imagination. > Humans are not built for this power to be in the hands of everyone with low friction. Why is having power concentrated in few hands better?
- shortrounddev2 2y ago
  > Why is having power concentrated in few hands better? Because most people are dangerous morons. I don't think most people should be allowed to operate a car, let alone the most powerful tool for misinformation that has ever existed
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    I mean, you're clearly not wrong, but how do you propose implementing your worldview without doing even more harm to humanity? The only thing worse than a powerful, dangerous tool in the hands of the masses is a powerful, dangerous tool controlled exclusively by powerful, dangerous people. (Cue the usual moronic analogies involving thermonuclear weapons...)
    - shortrounddev2 2y ago
      The problem of distributing access to dangerous things like AI and weapons has been a problem that humans have faced for a few thousand years. Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. If there was a formula for good governance, we'd have fewer problems, but generally I believe in democracy, transparency, and liberalism.

JPKab 2y ago

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jjmarr 2y ago
The Ancient Egyptian god Thoth invented writing and presented it to the King: "This invention, O king," said Thoth, "will make the Egyptians wiser and will improve their memories; for it is an elixir of memory and wisdom that I have discovered." The king replied: "This invention will produce forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it, because they will not practice their memory. Their trust in writing, produced by external characters which are no part of themselves, will discourage the use of their own memory within them. "You have invented an elixir not of memory, but of reminding; and you offer your pupils the appearance of wisdom, not true wisdom, for they will read many things without instruction and will therefore seem to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant and hard to get along with, since they are not wise, but only appear wise."

bamboozled 2y ago

Humans are not built for this power to be in the hands of everyone with low friction Now we have this with social media, everyone is their own little FSB propaganda machine…yay

washadjeffmad 2y ago

I've taken to calling the digital artists I work with "the old masters" in light of the flood of inexpert, low effort AGI content. And they do use generative AI, pretty liberally for concept work and reference, but they know what they're doing and can turn it into great things. I thought we lost a lot in the transition from analog to digital media, but that doesn't mean there's not a peak to any modern craft, just that there hasn't been a unified or named movement highlighting the best and worst, outside of social media algorithms.

sumedh 2y ago

> Amateur filmmakers can be more powerful? YouTube turned everyone into broadcasters. Sora could help bring countless untold stories to life, straight from the imagination. > Humans are not built for this power to be in the hands of everyone with low friction. Why is having power concentrated in few hands better?

shortrounddev2 2y ago
> Why is having power concentrated in few hands better? Because most people are dangerous morons. I don't think most people should be allowed to operate a car, let alone the most powerful tool for misinformation that has ever existed
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  I mean, you're clearly not wrong, but how do you propose implementing your worldview without doing even more harm to humanity? The only thing worse than a powerful, dangerous tool in the hands of the masses is a powerful, dangerous tool controlled exclusively by powerful, dangerous people. (Cue the usual moronic analogies involving thermonuclear weapons...)
  - shortrounddev2 2y ago
    The problem of distributing access to dangerous things like AI and weapons has been a problem that humans have faced for a few thousand years. Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. If there was a formula for good governance, we'd have fewer problems, but generally I believe in democracy, transparency, and liberalism.