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It will not be available in the EU for now. I always feel disadvantaged when I read that sentence

simicd 2y ago
And in the UK and Switzerland unfortunately https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10250692-sora-supported-countries https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10250692-sora-supported-...
- andz 2y ago
  is it a regulatory issue?
  - simicd 2y ago
    I suspect so, OpenAI is subject to the EU AI Act [0]. Last time they released the Advanced Voice Mode it also took some time before it became available in the EU. Not sure why UK and Switzerland are delayed as well, they are not in the European Union. [0] https://openai.com/global-affairs/a-primer-on-the-eu-ai-act/ https://openai.com/global-affairs/a-primer-on-the-eu-ai-act/
hmmm-i-wonder 2y ago
I'm not in the EU, but when I see something that is US only, I tend to assume its doing something with privacy/user data/otherwise that is restricted in the EU. Which means I generally avoid things that are not EU available even if they are available to me. Its not 100% but its a fairly decent measure of how much companies care about users to ensure they meet EU privacy laws from the start, vs if they provide some limited version or delayed version to the EU.
- xvector 2y ago
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  - sksrbWgbfK 2y ago
    I wonder how all those European companies are doing it. They ship everything all the time, avoid the $billions fines, yet make mistakes like everybody else. > how much the EU slowed down innovation You say this all the time, yet we're doing fine. How come?
    - xvector 2y ago
      > I wonder how all those European companies are doing it. Carefully crafted/gerrymandered laws that only rent seek from American big tech. > You say this all the time, yet we're doing fine. How come? You're not doing fine. I don't know how you can look back at the stagnation of the past two decades in the EU and think you're "doing fine." One of our companies is worth more than your entire tech industry. Your engineers get paid a fifth of what they could make here, so they often move here. In tech, you've fallen so far behind others superpowers that it's not even funny, and you're gleefully positioning yourself to fall even further behind. Your relative share of the global GDP is dropping. You think you're doing fine, but if the EU doesn't plan on amending the regulatory-industrial complex that has caused its undeniable stagnation, it will eventually fall into irrelevancy, and be on the losing side of the rising global wealth inequality.
      - talldayo 2y ago
        > Carefully crafted/gerrymandered laws that only rent seek from American big tech. Alright then; who else should have been covered with the DMA in your opinion? Which other companies created unfair tax arrangements that have avoided scrutiny for decades? Oh, nobody as large as Apple? Huh. Sounds like they're not targeting American companies at all, but instead prioritizing the biggest violators.
  - sensanaty 2y ago
    If this slop is what you consider a revolution, I dread to see what else the SV visionaries come up with next. Perhaps some iris scans in exchange for fake digital currency? Oh wait, Mr Worldcoin Altman already got us covered there!
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mhh__ 2y ago
Are you saying you're not glad that the EU has chosen for you? I would ask an AI to generate a riff on a "I am the very model of a modern major general" but for some EU bureaucrat but I'll spare you the spam.

And in the UK and Switzerland unfortunately https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10250692-sora-supported-countries https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10250692-sora-supported-...

andz 2y ago
is it a regulatory issue?
- simicd 2y ago
  I suspect so, OpenAI is subject to the EU AI Act [0]. Last time they released the Advanced Voice Mode it also took some time before it became available in the EU. Not sure why UK and Switzerland are delayed as well, they are not in the European Union. [0] https://openai.com/global-affairs/a-primer-on-the-eu-ai-act/ https://openai.com/global-affairs/a-primer-on-the-eu-ai-act/

hmmm-i-wonder 2y ago

I'm not in the EU, but when I see something that is US only, I tend to assume its doing something with privacy/user data/otherwise that is restricted in the EU. Which means I generally avoid things that are not EU available even if they are available to me. Its not 100% but its a fairly decent measure of how much companies care about users to ensure they meet EU privacy laws from the start, vs if they provide some limited version or delayed version to the EU.

xvector 2y ago
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- sksrbWgbfK 2y ago
  I wonder how all those European companies are doing it. They ship everything all the time, avoid the $billions fines, yet make mistakes like everybody else. > how much the EU slowed down innovation You say this all the time, yet we're doing fine. How come?
  - xvector 2y ago
    > I wonder how all those European companies are doing it. Carefully crafted/gerrymandered laws that only rent seek from American big tech. > You say this all the time, yet we're doing fine. How come? You're not doing fine. I don't know how you can look back at the stagnation of the past two decades in the EU and think you're "doing fine." One of our companies is worth more than your entire tech industry. Your engineers get paid a fifth of what they could make here, so they often move here. In tech, you've fallen so far behind others superpowers that it's not even funny, and you're gleefully positioning yourself to fall even further behind. Your relative share of the global GDP is dropping. You think you're doing fine, but if the EU doesn't plan on amending the regulatory-industrial complex that has caused its undeniable stagnation, it will eventually fall into irrelevancy, and be on the losing side of the rising global wealth inequality.
    - talldayo 2y ago
      > Carefully crafted/gerrymandered laws that only rent seek from American big tech. Alright then; who else should have been covered with the DMA in your opinion? Which other companies created unfair tax arrangements that have avoided scrutiny for decades? Oh, nobody as large as Apple? Huh. Sounds like they're not targeting American companies at all, but instead prioritizing the biggest violators.
- sensanaty 2y ago
  If this slop is what you consider a revolution, I dread to see what else the SV visionaries come up with next. Perhaps some iris scans in exchange for fake digital currency? Oh wait, Mr Worldcoin Altman already got us covered there!
- 2y ago

mhh__ 2y ago

Are you saying you're not glad that the EU has chosen for you? I would ask an AI to generate a riff on a "I am the very model of a modern major general" but for some EU bureaucrat but I'll spare you the spam.