You cannot have a conversation when you're trying to get rid of or reform a system worth $14,500,000,000,000 and the people through whose hands those fourteen t

You cannot have a conversation when you're trying to get rid of or reform a system worth $14,500,000,000,000 and the people through whose hands those fourteen trillion five hundred billion dollars are passing skim a bit off the top to buy off (sorry, "support") politicians. The only option is Medicare for All, with decades of it slowly chipping away at private insurance and surviving endless challenges by the combined might of the insurance, pharmaceutical, banking, private equity, and medical device manufacturer industries who are willing to spend trillions of dollars and fight endlessly to protect their revenue streams-- so that's a long shot, to say the least. edit: also, all of the people running the industries with which we need to have "a conversation" are narcissists and/or sociopaths who would kill, dehydrate, and grind up the general public for resale to the masses as protein powder if they could get away with it.