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One of the classics and must-reads in music technology. I read it over and over again when I was building: https://glicol.org/ https://glicol.org/ One of the

One of the classics and must-reads in music technology. I read it over and over again when I was building: https://glicol.org/ https://glicol.org/ One of the motivations for building Glicol is to quickly let more people understand sound synthesis and music programming in the browser. also recommand: Designing Audio Effect Plugins in C++ by Will Pirkle Audio Effects Theory, Implementation and Application By Joshua Reiss, Andrew McPherson And all the books by JULIUS O. SMITH III https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/filters/Book_Series_Overview.html https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/filters/Book_Series_Overview...

pomian 2y ago
Your "on phone" or desktop synthesizer is amazing. Thanks for that. I shared with my more musical synth type friends. Your program reminds us, of how amazing music can be, with such a simple backbone. (Just as in the case of a harmonica or whistle, where a few notes, can invoke a range of emotions.) So easy to see the results of ones own experimentation.
Rochus 2y ago
Thanks for pointing to Glicol; this is amazing; looks like some kind of marriage of Chuck and Faust; or to which other language would you compare it? Just looked around a bit on the sites, but didn't see a language specification. Can you provide a hint, please. Is this some kind of master or PhD work, or just a hobby project?
- chaosprint 2y ago
  it's one of my phd works. there was a conference paper but it seems that the database of the whole conf was gone... still you can find some philosophy here: https://github.com/chaosprint/glicol https://github.com/chaosprint/glicol the glicol-cli is also a relatively special work: https://github.com/glicol/glicol-cli https://github.com/glicol/glicol-cli
  - Rochus 2y ago
    Is there a link or copy of the conference paper or the PhD thesis?
    - chaosprint 2y ago
      here: https://webaudioconf.com/posts/2021_8/ https://webaudioconf.com/posts/2021_8/ the video is still there
      - Rochus 2y ago
        Thanks. I was able to download the paper from https://webaudioconf.com/_data/papers/pdf/2021/2021_8.pdf https://webaudioconf.com/_data/papers/pdf/2021/2021_8.pdf (the original link didn't work). Is the PhD thesis also available somewhere? What are your experiences with Rust? Was it worth it, or would you rather consider another language for similar projects?
        chaosprint 2y ago
        Rust is in my opinion probably the best language so far for audio/music infrastructure. So for me personally, I would not consider another language for this type of work. But I am definitely not saying that Rust is suitable for any job.
        Rochus 2y ago
        Interesting, thanks.
unsatchmo 2y ago
Glicol looking super cool! Reminds me of ChucK https://chuck.cs.princeton.edu https://chuck.cs.princeton.edu
RossBencina 2y ago
A few additional/alternative reading recommendations: Proceedings of the International Conference on Digital Audio Effects (DAFx). All open access at https://dafx.de/ https://dafx.de/ Jon Dattorro's Effect Design papers: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart1.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart1.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart2.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart2.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart3.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart3.pdf Vadim Zavalishin - The Art Of VA Filter Design https://www.native-instruments.com/fileadmin/ni_media/downloads/pdf/VAFilterDesign_2.1.0.pdf https://www.native-instruments.com/fileadmin/ni_media/downlo... Proceedings of the International Computer Music Conference (open access) https://quod.lib.umich.edu/i/icmc/ https://quod.lib.umich.edu/i/icmc/ Andy Farnell, "Designing Sound" A standard introductory DSP textbook such as Ifeachor and Jervis, Orfanidis, Oppenheim and Schafer. "The Computer Music Tutorial" and "Microsound" by Curtis Roads Audio Anecdotes book series "Music, Cognition and Computerised Sound", edited by Perry Cook what am I missing?
- nonrandomstring 2y ago
  Boulanger and Lazzarini "The Audio Programming Book" - great if you want to start working straight away in C Boulanger - "The Csound Book" (another classic language I still use today) Greenbaum and Barzel - "Audio Anecdotes". A fascinating series of 3 volumes with all sorts of wisdom on FX design, studio systems and composition Wilson, Cottle and Collins - "The Supercollider Book". In the style of The Csound Book, but with SC. Loy - "Musicmathics". A rare and much under-rated two volume set on the equations behind audio DSP Bilbao - "Numerical Sound Synthesis". A hard but rewarding journey to understanding audio physics as linear diff systems and implementing them efficiently in C, Goes well with Perry Cook's stuff. Benson - "Music a mathematical offering" Very unusual book that analyses many subjects in music physics. Equations but no code. Miranda "Computer Sound Design". More about music synthesis than "sound design" imho, but has some interesting fringe methods like cellular autonoma and genetic algorithms.
  - ofalkaed 2y ago
    >Boulanger - "The Csound Book" Probably the gold standard for such books, wish all the audio DSLs had a book of such quality. Between it and The Computer Music Tutorial Csound is ahead of the rest when it comes to books. Edit: Was thinking The Computer Music Tutorial was filled with Csound examples but on second thought I don't think it actually is. Been awhile since I last browsed it.
changexd 2y ago
glicol is super super cool, thanks for sharing!
8bitsrule 2y ago
Charles Dodge and Thomas A. Jerse, 1997. Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition and Performance. Schirmer Books, New York. 2nd Ed. 455pp. ISBN 0-02-864682-7. {Glossary; Index. 100s of figures, formulas.} Highly recommended.

pomian 2y ago

Your "on phone" or desktop synthesizer is amazing. Thanks for that. I shared with my more musical synth type friends. Your program reminds us, of how amazing music can be, with such a simple backbone. (Just as in the case of a harmonica or whistle, where a few notes, can invoke a range of emotions.) So easy to see the results of ones own experimentation.

Rochus 2y ago

Thanks for pointing to Glicol; this is amazing; looks like some kind of marriage of Chuck and Faust; or to which other language would you compare it? Just looked around a bit on the sites, but didn't see a language specification. Can you provide a hint, please. Is this some kind of master or PhD work, or just a hobby project?

chaosprint 2y ago
it's one of my phd works. there was a conference paper but it seems that the database of the whole conf was gone... still you can find some philosophy here: https://github.com/chaosprint/glicol https://github.com/chaosprint/glicol the glicol-cli is also a relatively special work: https://github.com/glicol/glicol-cli https://github.com/glicol/glicol-cli
- Rochus 2y ago
  Is there a link or copy of the conference paper or the PhD thesis?
  - chaosprint 2y ago
    here: https://webaudioconf.com/posts/2021_8/ https://webaudioconf.com/posts/2021_8/ the video is still there
    - Rochus 2y ago
      Thanks. I was able to download the paper from https://webaudioconf.com/_data/papers/pdf/2021/2021_8.pdf https://webaudioconf.com/_data/papers/pdf/2021/2021_8.pdf (the original link didn't work). Is the PhD thesis also available somewhere? What are your experiences with Rust? Was it worth it, or would you rather consider another language for similar projects?
      - chaosprint 2y ago
        Rust is in my opinion probably the best language so far for audio/music infrastructure. So for me personally, I would not consider another language for this type of work. But I am definitely not saying that Rust is suitable for any job.
        Rochus 2y ago
        Interesting, thanks.

unsatchmo 2y ago

Glicol looking super cool! Reminds me of ChucK https://chuck.cs.princeton.edu https://chuck.cs.princeton.edu

RossBencina 2y ago

A few additional/alternative reading recommendations: Proceedings of the International Conference on Digital Audio Effects (DAFx). All open access at https://dafx.de/ https://dafx.de/ Jon Dattorro's Effect Design papers: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart1.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart1.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart2.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart2.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart3.pdf https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~dattorro/EffectDesignPart3.pdf Vadim Zavalishin - The Art Of VA Filter Design https://www.native-instruments.com/fileadmin/ni_media/downloads/pdf/VAFilterDesign_2.1.0.pdf https://www.native-instruments.com/fileadmin/ni_media/downlo... Proceedings of the International Computer Music Conference (open access) https://quod.lib.umich.edu/i/icmc/ https://quod.lib.umich.edu/i/icmc/ Andy Farnell, "Designing Sound" A standard introductory DSP textbook such as Ifeachor and Jervis, Orfanidis, Oppenheim and Schafer. "The Computer Music Tutorial" and "Microsound" by Curtis Roads Audio Anecdotes book series "Music, Cognition and Computerised Sound", edited by Perry Cook what am I missing?

nonrandomstring 2y ago
Boulanger and Lazzarini "The Audio Programming Book" - great if you want to start working straight away in C Boulanger - "The Csound Book" (another classic language I still use today) Greenbaum and Barzel - "Audio Anecdotes". A fascinating series of 3 volumes with all sorts of wisdom on FX design, studio systems and composition Wilson, Cottle and Collins - "The Supercollider Book". In the style of The Csound Book, but with SC. Loy - "Musicmathics". A rare and much under-rated two volume set on the equations behind audio DSP Bilbao - "Numerical Sound Synthesis". A hard but rewarding journey to understanding audio physics as linear diff systems and implementing them efficiently in C, Goes well with Perry Cook's stuff. Benson - "Music a mathematical offering" Very unusual book that analyses many subjects in music physics. Equations but no code. Miranda "Computer Sound Design". More about music synthesis than "sound design" imho, but has some interesting fringe methods like cellular autonoma and genetic algorithms.
- ofalkaed 2y ago
  >Boulanger - "The Csound Book" Probably the gold standard for such books, wish all the audio DSLs had a book of such quality. Between it and The Computer Music Tutorial Csound is ahead of the rest when it comes to books. Edit: Was thinking The Computer Music Tutorial was filled with Csound examples but on second thought I don't think it actually is. Been awhile since I last browsed it.

changexd 2y ago

glicol is super super cool, thanks for sharing!

8bitsrule 2y ago

Charles Dodge and Thomas A. Jerse, 1997. Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition and Performance. Schirmer Books, New York. 2nd Ed. 455pp. ISBN 0-02-864682-7. {Glossary; Index. 100s of figures, formulas.} Highly recommended.