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As a long time Mac user, I've really only started to become annoyed with OS X with the release of Lion. And by "started", I mean it's so severe that I'm probabl

by fiblye 14y ago

As a long time Mac user, I've really only started to become annoyed with OS X with the release of Lion. And by "started", I mean it's so severe that I'm probably going to switch to another OS after Mountain Lion is released. I feel like Apple is just trying to screw devs and power users over in a desperate attempt to pull in the iOS crowd. Simple things like crippling Exposé and Spaces, which would easily allow to me see all windows and quickly switch between them, to combine it in Mission Control (which is all flash and no substance), was the first thing that annoyed me. Seeing them push the App Store to the point that they're going to make it more difficult for developers to distribute their apps outside it is also worrying. Also, I seriously never had a single crash or freeze before Lion, and I've been using OS X for a good 7 years or more. Since installing Lion, I've had frequent lockups with many so bad that I've had to force a shutdown countless times. As a whole, everything is obviously much slower and/or crippled with worthless glitter thrown on top. One of their main selling points in Lion was trackpad gestures, which are definitely great on their laptops, but completely worthless when you want to use a decent mouse with your desktop. Thankfully I kept Snow Leopard on my iMac and it's my main work machine. You're not alone in your frustration.

DigitalJack 14y ago
I'm not a fan of what they are doing with the App Store (with the notable exception that everything you buy on the App Store is licensed for all your Macs, with possibly a limit of 5). However, I find "Mission Control" to be perfectly usable. The name is a little dumb, but it's basically just expose with multiple desktop switching added in. What's the "all flash" part you are talking about?
- fiblye 14y ago
  With Spaces+Exposé, I could do two buttons presses to quickly see every window in every space. Mission Control removes this ability and instead stacks windows, making it harder to find what I'm looking for. Snow Leopard would easily let me select an individual window in another space with one click, while Lion either requires me to slide several times, pick the window, and do an app-only Exposé, or select a space, use Mission Control again, then select a subwindow. It kills productivity. Additionally, Mission Control is simply much more laggy-feeling. I could easily switch between apps and spaces with no hesitation in Snow Leopard. In Lion, for whatever reason, it was that decided it was important to eliminate this in order to do a fancy slide effect. Lion also gives you the ability to set a unique wallpaper for each desktop, which is nice for some people, but it forces my computer to refresh the items on my desktop each time I scroll into another space.
  - espes 14y ago
    https://github.com/espes/fixexpose https://github.com/espes/fixexpose
  - gurkendoktor 14y ago
    Mountain Lion has a checkbox to ungroup applications in Mission Control. It's basically like 10.5 Exposé with an added spaces bar at the top, and a background that shrinks for some reason.
    - fiblye 14y ago
      I'm glad they decided to give us some choice. I just wish they'd done it from the beginning.
      - gurkendoktor 14y ago
        I usually don't mind when Apple tries out a new direction. It seems several of their products have taken two steps back to (try to) make a big leap afterwards, like iMovie and Final Cut Pro X(?). It's only terrible because Apple forced all users to their Revision A software. Axing MobileMe and iOS development tools before Mountain Lion cleaned the mess up wasn't a nice move.
- unconed 14y ago
  Mentally, I always think of multiple monitors consisting of one space. Mission Control ruins that by displaying each space on each monitor separately, so windows that are side-by-side on different monitors no longer appear side by side in Mission Control. This is a huge mental disconnect. There's also various annoyances: * You can't drag a window from one monitor to another using Mission Control, even though it will highlight the space you're trying to drop on. * You can't move Space 1 to another spot or remove it, for no particular reason. * When activating mission control from a fullscreen app, it shows the windows from Space 1, yet you have to swipe left to go to Space 2. * It forces you to have different backgrounds per space/monitor, even if you don't want to. Changing your background globally is a huge pain.
jdhendrickson 14y ago
I have been running 10.8 for a around 2 weeks and the last two days both the trackpad and mouse simply stop registering on click, rebooting into safe mode then rebooting again is the only thing that fixes it, I don't even have any third party apps installed! That's a pretty major bug to have on year old hardware with your new release. It feels like QC is slipping. I may give Ubuntu 12.06 a shot via boot camp this weekend and see if I can get my work done with no loss in productivity. I use vim for my editor anyway so it's not like all that much will be different. (I won't miss the beach ball if this works out).

by fiblye 14y ago

DigitalJack 14y ago

I'm not a fan of what they are doing with the App Store (with the notable exception that everything you buy on the App Store is licensed for all your Macs, with possibly a limit of 5). However, I find "Mission Control" to be perfectly usable. The name is a little dumb, but it's basically just expose with multiple desktop switching added in. What's the "all flash" part you are talking about?

fiblye 14y ago
With Spaces+Exposé, I could do two buttons presses to quickly see every window in every space. Mission Control removes this ability and instead stacks windows, making it harder to find what I'm looking for. Snow Leopard would easily let me select an individual window in another space with one click, while Lion either requires me to slide several times, pick the window, and do an app-only Exposé, or select a space, use Mission Control again, then select a subwindow. It kills productivity. Additionally, Mission Control is simply much more laggy-feeling. I could easily switch between apps and spaces with no hesitation in Snow Leopard. In Lion, for whatever reason, it was that decided it was important to eliminate this in order to do a fancy slide effect. Lion also gives you the ability to set a unique wallpaper for each desktop, which is nice for some people, but it forces my computer to refresh the items on my desktop each time I scroll into another space.
- espes 14y ago
  https://github.com/espes/fixexpose https://github.com/espes/fixexpose
- gurkendoktor 14y ago
  Mountain Lion has a checkbox to ungroup applications in Mission Control. It's basically like 10.5 Exposé with an added spaces bar at the top, and a background that shrinks for some reason.
  - fiblye 14y ago
    I'm glad they decided to give us some choice. I just wish they'd done it from the beginning.
    - gurkendoktor 14y ago
      I usually don't mind when Apple tries out a new direction. It seems several of their products have taken two steps back to (try to) make a big leap afterwards, like iMovie and Final Cut Pro X(?). It's only terrible because Apple forced all users to their Revision A software. Axing MobileMe and iOS development tools before Mountain Lion cleaned the mess up wasn't a nice move.
unconed 14y ago
Mentally, I always think of multiple monitors consisting of one space. Mission Control ruins that by displaying each space on each monitor separately, so windows that are side-by-side on different monitors no longer appear side by side in Mission Control. This is a huge mental disconnect. There's also various annoyances: * You can't drag a window from one monitor to another using Mission Control, even though it will highlight the space you're trying to drop on. * You can't move Space 1 to another spot or remove it, for no particular reason. * When activating mission control from a fullscreen app, it shows the windows from Space 1, yet you have to swipe left to go to Space 2. * It forces you to have different backgrounds per space/monitor, even if you don't want to. Changing your background globally is a huge pain.

jdhendrickson 14y ago

I have been running 10.8 for a around 2 weeks and the last two days both the trackpad and mouse simply stop registering on click, rebooting into safe mode then rebooting again is the only thing that fixes it, I don't even have any third party apps installed! That's a pretty major bug to have on year old hardware with your new release. It feels like QC is slipping. I may give Ubuntu 12.06 a shot via boot camp this weekend and see if I can get my work done with no loss in productivity. I use vim for my editor anyway so it's not like all that much will be different. (I won't miss the beach ball if this works out).