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I only use them for money-making projetcs. Based on my own experience and what I read online, you need to be careful with: * crypto mining (I used it when it w

I only use them for money-making projetcs. Based on my own experience and what I read online, you need to be careful with: * crypto mining (I used it when it wasn't causing much trouble but I noticed my nodes were constantly attacked at a ratio I newer saw for other servers); IIRC Hetzner's current ToS forbid crypto mining * things in legally grey area which might be legal in some places but not so in others, especially in the EU * protect your servers well; if you become a victim of an attack and your servers will start attacking other, Hetzner will isolate them and notify you so that you can solve the problem Other than that, the only problems I had in the last 15 or so years are failing bare-metal components that they promptly replaced, that's all.

egorfine 2y ago
Their ToS forbids not just the crypto mining (that was extremely reasonable to ban ten years ago, but it's moot today) but also some arbitrary financial technologies they don't like. So beware of their ToS.
- gosub100 2y ago
  > but it's moot today I disagree. It's not just the nuisance of wasted clock cycles. It also makes the network a juicy target for hackers. To anyone about to reply "you don't think people hack them now?", how do you think the correlation of attack sophistication and frequency looks for a network with/without a bunch of FREE MONEY inside? :)
  - egorfine 2y ago
    It's moot because it makes no sense to mine on CPU or even on an entry level GPU that Hetzner did provide at one point. You will make a couple of $/m. Besides, no mainstream crypto is mined anymore except Bitcoin. So moot.
- spookie 2y ago
  Is it really moot today given the current geopolitical landscape? I would assume not given they're based in Germany.
  - egorfine 2y ago
    It's moot because it makes no sense to mine on CPU or even on an entry level GPU that Hetzner did provide at one point. You will make a couple of $/m. Besides, no mainstream crypto is mined anymore except Bitcoin.
    - cutemonster 2y ago
      What's in place instead of mining, nowadays? Proof of stake or sth like that?
      - egorfine 2y ago
        Proof of stake, correct.
- throwaway2037 2y ago
  > also some arbitrary financial technologies they don't like Such as?
  - egorfine 2y ago
    Such as storing, uploading, downloading and serving transactions in a specific particular way called blockchain or distributed ledger. They have also explicitly forbidden storing blockchain data on their servers and having anything auxiliary related to it. It is obviously a hostile language created by lawyers who did not spend much time researching the subject. Of course it's unenforceable in practice and that is why a hefty chunk of Ethereum nodes are hosted on Hetzner for years and years with no problems.
movedx 2y ago
I've had the same experience with them and OVH. I've yet to try the other players in the market like Scaleway.

egorfine 2y ago

Their ToS forbids not just the crypto mining (that was extremely reasonable to ban ten years ago, but it's moot today) but also some arbitrary financial technologies they don't like. So beware of their ToS.

gosub100 2y ago
> but it's moot today I disagree. It's not just the nuisance of wasted clock cycles. It also makes the network a juicy target for hackers. To anyone about to reply "you don't think people hack them now?", how do you think the correlation of attack sophistication and frequency looks for a network with/without a bunch of FREE MONEY inside? :)
- egorfine 2y ago
  It's moot because it makes no sense to mine on CPU or even on an entry level GPU that Hetzner did provide at one point. You will make a couple of $/m. Besides, no mainstream crypto is mined anymore except Bitcoin. So moot.
spookie 2y ago
Is it really moot today given the current geopolitical landscape? I would assume not given they're based in Germany.
- egorfine 2y ago
  It's moot because it makes no sense to mine on CPU or even on an entry level GPU that Hetzner did provide at one point. You will make a couple of $/m. Besides, no mainstream crypto is mined anymore except Bitcoin.
  - cutemonster 2y ago
    What's in place instead of mining, nowadays? Proof of stake or sth like that?
    - egorfine 2y ago
      Proof of stake, correct.
throwaway2037 2y ago
> also some arbitrary financial technologies they don't like Such as?
- egorfine 2y ago
  Such as storing, uploading, downloading and serving transactions in a specific particular way called blockchain or distributed ledger. They have also explicitly forbidden storing blockchain data on their servers and having anything auxiliary related to it. It is obviously a hostile language created by lawyers who did not spend much time researching the subject. Of course it's unenforceable in practice and that is why a hefty chunk of Ethereum nodes are hosted on Hetzner for years and years with no problems.

movedx 2y ago

I've had the same experience with them and OVH. I've yet to try the other players in the market like Scaleway.