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I can't stress how important it is to own your own hardware and colocate. Also, if you are paying for a dedicated server, you can often save money by moving to

I can't stress how important it is to own your own hardware and colocate. Also, if you are paying for a dedicated server, you can often save money by moving to colocation.

grishka 2y ago
What if you don't want to host your stuff in the same jurisdiction where you live because you don't trust your government?
- 9cb14c1ec0 2y ago
  There are colocation datacenters all over the world.
  - grishka 2y ago
    Sure, but if something goes wrong with your colocated server, you're supposed to fix it yourself, aren't you? So it feels kinda important that the datacenter is close enough so you could get there quickly on a short notice. I'm imagining having to fly several hours and cross borders just to replace a failed hard drive, all while your server is down.
    - kirubakaran 2y ago
      You can use "remote hands" service to some extent. For example: http://www.he.net/tour/Fremont_2_220_Remote_Hands_Service.html http://www.he.net/tour/Fremont_2_220_Remote_Hands_Service.ht... You could leave a stack of HDDs and other consumables in your server cabinet for them.
lakomen 2y ago
Colo is a lot more expensive than some dedi or VM somewhere. Can you provide me with a 12 core 32gb ecc 2TB ssd for 33eur/m? I doubt it.
- 9cb14c1ec0 2y ago
  You have to compare the actually performance of the dedi or VM. Cheap dedis and VMs are usually old, cheap hardware with relatively bad performance. I'm running a 20 core, 96 GB ram, 8TB colocated server for $55/month.
  - thesh4d0w 2y ago
    Where are you getting colo space that cheap? I'm moving a non-profit off OVH and onto dedicated and I'm looking at $150/month Canadian for 2u + 400w. Also, don't forget about hardware acquisition costs, upgrades over time, replacement hardware and downtime due to outages, etc.
    - 9cb14c1ec0 2y ago
      https://microtronixdc.com/ https://microtronixdc.com/ https://www.fiberstate.com/colocation https://www.fiberstate.com/colocation

I can't stress how important it is to own your own hardware and colocate. Also, if you are paying for a dedicated server, you can often save money by moving to colocation.

grishka 2y ago

What if you don't want to host your stuff in the same jurisdiction where you live because you don't trust your government?

9cb14c1ec0 2y ago
There are colocation datacenters all over the world.
- grishka 2y ago
  Sure, but if something goes wrong with your colocated server, you're supposed to fix it yourself, aren't you? So it feels kinda important that the datacenter is close enough so you could get there quickly on a short notice. I'm imagining having to fly several hours and cross borders just to replace a failed hard drive, all while your server is down.
  - kirubakaran 2y ago
    You can use "remote hands" service to some extent. For example: http://www.he.net/tour/Fremont_2_220_Remote_Hands_Service.html http://www.he.net/tour/Fremont_2_220_Remote_Hands_Service.ht... You could leave a stack of HDDs and other consumables in your server cabinet for them.

lakomen 2y ago

Colo is a lot more expensive than some dedi or VM somewhere. Can you provide me with a 12 core 32gb ecc 2TB ssd for 33eur/m? I doubt it.

9cb14c1ec0 2y ago
You have to compare the actually performance of the dedi or VM. Cheap dedis and VMs are usually old, cheap hardware with relatively bad performance. I'm running a 20 core, 96 GB ram, 8TB colocated server for $55/month.
- thesh4d0w 2y ago
  Where are you getting colo space that cheap? I'm moving a non-profit off OVH and onto dedicated and I'm looking at $150/month Canadian for 2u + 400w. Also, don't forget about hardware acquisition costs, upgrades over time, replacement hardware and downtime due to outages, etc.
  - 9cb14c1ec0 2y ago
    https://microtronixdc.com/ https://microtronixdc.com/ https://www.fiberstate.com/colocation https://www.fiberstate.com/colocation