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Until recently, the availability of software updates was a limiting factor, especially for midrange phones. (Before that, phones were so slow and had so little
by Tepix 2y ago
Until recently, the availability of software updates was a limiting factor, especially for midrange phones.
(Before that, phones were so slow and had so little RAM that software updates made them unusable eventually).
The mid-range Samsung A52 5G now comes with 7 years of security updates and you can get it with 8GB of RAM for less than 300€.
That's a pretty good deal! You just need to replace the battery every three years or so.
Having said that, i think that on-device AI will change things and it will accelerate the update cycle once again because bigger models are better and the models that fit on phones are still anemic these days. Where are the phones with 32GB of RAM? My body is ready!
- onion2k 2y agoYou just need to replace the battery every three years or so. If you used it as a PC, presumably in a dock attached to a monitor, keyboard, etc, then it's be plugged in most of the time and battery wouldn't get much use.
- mckirk 2y agoProvided you limit the charge level to something like 80% (ideally even 60%). Keeping these batteries at 100% constantly also leads to degradation, even if you don't really 'use' them.
- Tepix 2y agoMy comment was about using a phone just as a phone :-)
- Ylpertnodi 2y agoAghast! Oh, the humanity! Heathen, be gone from these parts!
- zaptrem 2y agoHave there been compelling use cases for on device LLMs where the value isn’t based on privacy benefits yet?
- polyomino 2y agoLower latency, which can be useful for live translation or keyboard autocomplete
- Tepix 2y agoFor me complete privacy is a must-have for an LLM that gets access to pretty much all my data (mails, calendar, location, browser history, chats, address book, health, app use, ...). But there are other benefits such as the availability, even when your phone is offline, latency and no cost per use.
- resource_waste 2y agoHow is Samsung? I had 1 bad experience with their phones, 1 bad experience with their tvs, a few bad experiences with their appliances, and a bad experience with their SSD. I just assumed they are the Apple of Android, big marketing budget, expensive, but mid-tier.
- codingrightnow 2y agoI went from S20 to S21 to S24. Before that every Android phone I had was good but qc issues would pop up or some new phone would come out with much better features (eg camera quality is really important to me). Since I switched to Samsung have had 0 qc issues and every camera has been amazing. The only reason I upgrade is because it's free with my carrier so why not? Staying with Samsung if/until it changes.
- Tepix 2y agoWell, if you didn't have a $800 phone included in your contract, chances are you contract would be much cheaper. That's why not.
- Tepix 2y agoI haven't bought this phone myself but i got one for a family member. So far, no complaints.
- ponector 2y agoThere are phones with 24gb of ram already available!
- Tepix 2y agoYes, it's a start!