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Well I just went into the first one, and you can't use it if you have e.g. low volt LEDs in your kitchen like I do.. and they all look to be in the 900mhz rang

Well I just went into the first one, and you can't use it if you have e.g. low volt LEDs in your kitchen like I do.. and they all look to be in the 900mhz range. I'm sure there's some combination of Zigbee stuff that could match the Lutron setup -- they look more customizable so maybe that's a plus for people too. We were just tired of fighting to get our smart home to not be annoying so plug and play with Lutron was a big win, and you can layer in more control with HA that has no danger of breaking everything. If I were starting over, I might take a look at some of those, and I'm glad there's some competition in the space.

15155 2y ago
> and they all look to be in the 900mhz range Why is this an issue? Z-Wave is a mesh network, all hardwired switches/outlets/etc. are repeaters by default. > low volt LEDs in your kitchen like I do What is "low volt?" 12-24V? I have this in my kitchen using a 110V -> 24V dimmable LED PSU and a Z-Wave triac dimmer. Zigbee is not Z-Wave - Z-Wave has far more definition and structure to available devices and can do everything Lutron can do at this point.
- holoduke 2y ago
  Zwave is a proprietary protocol. Its old and unnecessary complex. Zigbee devices are a lot cheaper. And in many cases better performing than zwave mesh networks. A few years ago you still had zwave devices you did not have zigbee variants for. But now? Cant think of one.
  - shadowpho 2y ago
    > Zwave is a proprietary protocol. Its old and unnecessary complex. Zigbee devices are a lot cheaper. And in many cases better performing than zwave mesh networks. That’s not entirely correct. Zwave is more expensive because if you want to sell your zwave solution there’s a monopoly on zwave. Nothing to do with complexity or age. As for “better performing”, I don’t even know how to respond. Latency? Reliability? Power? Bandwidth? Zwave in general is better then zigbee due to lower frequencies and staying out of WiFi/bt. However it is more expensive and less options.

15155 2y ago

> and they all look to be in the 900mhz range Why is this an issue? Z-Wave is a mesh network, all hardwired switches/outlets/etc. are repeaters by default. > low volt LEDs in your kitchen like I do What is "low volt?" 12-24V? I have this in my kitchen using a 110V -> 24V dimmable LED PSU and a Z-Wave triac dimmer. Zigbee is not Z-Wave - Z-Wave has far more definition and structure to available devices and can do everything Lutron can do at this point.

holoduke 2y ago
Zwave is a proprietary protocol. Its old and unnecessary complex. Zigbee devices are a lot cheaper. And in many cases better performing than zwave mesh networks. A few years ago you still had zwave devices you did not have zigbee variants for. But now? Cant think of one.
- shadowpho 2y ago
  > Zwave is a proprietary protocol. Its old and unnecessary complex. Zigbee devices are a lot cheaper. And in many cases better performing than zwave mesh networks. That’s not entirely correct. Zwave is more expensive because if you want to sell your zwave solution there’s a monopoly on zwave. Nothing to do with complexity or age. As for “better performing”, I don’t even know how to respond. Latency? Reliability? Power? Bandwidth? Zwave in general is better then zigbee due to lower frequencies and staying out of WiFi/bt. However it is more expensive and less options.