This same discussion has happened a bunch of times with regular non-A GPL3, ie "If my code just shells out to a GPL3 binary, my code doesn't need to be GPL3 rig

This same discussion has happened a bunch of times with regular non-A GPL3, ie "If my code just shells out to a GPL3 binary, my code doesn't need to be GPL3 right?" The usual answer is that it's subjective because it depends on how strongly coupled your code is to that particular binary - does your code work without that binary, is there some other implementation that it could work with, do you provide that binary or does the user provide it, etc. The third one doesn't apply for the AGPL network service case but the first two do.