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We don't have an infinite supply of health care and there is a strong demand so there is always going to be some form of rationing going on. There are always go

We don't have an infinite supply of health care and there is a strong demand so there is always going to be some form of rationing going on. There are always going to be people with chronic life ruining conditions that are going to get a raw deal under whatever system you propose to distribute the limited supply of healthcare. It seems like someone is always going to have a justification to kill someone whether its a CEO or some faceless bureaucrat.

DougN7 2y ago
That’s true, but UHC alone has $6 BILLION in profit each _quarter_. A whole lot of that could be going towards health care. In my opinion health insurance providers should not be for-profit.
wat10000 2y ago
There’s a huge difference between the inevitable random crazies driven to madness because they can’t handle their unfortunate but unavoidable circumstances, and abusing the entire population on such a scale that when someone murders an executive in broad daylight, the prevailing public mood is “serves him right.”
- vacuity 2y ago
  If (according to some) a woman wearing revealing clothes deserves to be raped, and (to most, hopefully) a drunk driver deserves imprisonment and paying any victims, what does someone who has knowingly and intentionally participated in a scheme leading to the deaths of thousands and suffering of millions for personal profit deserve? I myself don't agree to the death penalty or any killing if it doesn't serve to thwart an immediate and severe danger. We shall take it as a given that this killing doesn't fall under the latter, or perhaps even a somewhat more generous definition. But at the same time, it would be infeasible to have the CEO "brought to justice". To have him sentenced in court, his assets paid out, and the company reformed. Between nothing at all happening (except protests) and the CEO being killed, which is the better choice? If, all else being equal, you could choose one world or the other, which choice is better?
  - wat10000 2y ago
    Pointless question. If you do nothing at all for long enough, then people will eventually decide that the system isn’t getting it done and will start taking matters into their own hands. You can’t choose between doing nothing and violence. Doing nothing begets violence.
slt2021 2y ago
other countries seem like getting a much better deal than Americans. in fact the same drugs are sold 10-100x cheaper outside US

DougN7 2y ago

That’s true, but UHC alone has $6 BILLION in profit each _quarter_. A whole lot of that could be going towards health care. In my opinion health insurance providers should not be for-profit.

wat10000 2y ago

There’s a huge difference between the inevitable random crazies driven to madness because they can’t handle their unfortunate but unavoidable circumstances, and abusing the entire population on such a scale that when someone murders an executive in broad daylight, the prevailing public mood is “serves him right.”

vacuity 2y ago
If (according to some) a woman wearing revealing clothes deserves to be raped, and (to most, hopefully) a drunk driver deserves imprisonment and paying any victims, what does someone who has knowingly and intentionally participated in a scheme leading to the deaths of thousands and suffering of millions for personal profit deserve? I myself don't agree to the death penalty or any killing if it doesn't serve to thwart an immediate and severe danger. We shall take it as a given that this killing doesn't fall under the latter, or perhaps even a somewhat more generous definition. But at the same time, it would be infeasible to have the CEO "brought to justice". To have him sentenced in court, his assets paid out, and the company reformed. Between nothing at all happening (except protests) and the CEO being killed, which is the better choice? If, all else being equal, you could choose one world or the other, which choice is better?
- wat10000 2y ago
  Pointless question. If you do nothing at all for long enough, then people will eventually decide that the system isn’t getting it done and will start taking matters into their own hands. You can’t choose between doing nothing and violence. Doing nothing begets violence.

slt2021 2y ago

other countries seem like getting a much better deal than Americans. in fact the same drugs are sold 10-100x cheaper outside US