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> you need to speak to a professional I love this dismissive attitude that anyone who fails to empathize with someone who makes tens of millions a year AND den

> you need to speak to a professional I love this dismissive attitude that anyone who fails to empathize with someone who makes tens of millions a year AND denies health insurance claims is somehow mentally ill. Get real.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> anyone who fails to empathize with someone who makes tens of millions a year I’m not saying feel sorry for him. I’m not even saying don’t indulge in schadenfreude. Where you should know it crosses the line is in celebrating the killing and the killer. Because I promise you that someone with equal or more conviction in their righteousness would similarly take pleasure in the murder if someone you find, if not virtuous, not deserving to be murdered.
- wat10000 2y ago
  This sounds an awful lot like “don’t have opinions, because other people will have different opinions.” Ok, someone will take pleasure in the murder of someone I think doesn’t deserve it. So what? Obviously I don’t like that, but people think all kinds of stuff I don’t like. Why should this particular opinion change mine? Virtually everyone would take pleasure in someone’s murder. Osama bin Laden, say. Hitler, if we were in a different time and he hadn’t done the job himself. There are some people so principled they really wouldn’t feel that way for anyone, but for most of us it’s just a question of who falls into that category. Is has been a little surprising to find out that so many Americans consider this guy to be worthy, but just a little.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > sounds an awful lot like “don’t have opinions, because other people will have different opinions.” Not at all. Our healthcare system is corrupt. That doesn’t excuse murder. Bin Laden was offed by a state. Depending on your morals, that is or isn’t different. But those who equate a serial killer with a soldier are in the stark, stark minority. > little surprising to find out that so many Americans consider this guy to be worthy Worthy of wealth != worthy of life. If you think you can judge life or death for other humans, sure, fine. We are very, very different people.
    - wat10000 2y ago
      Sorry, who’s the serial killer and who’s the soldier in this equation? I don't plan on going out and killing anyone, but I don’t see what’s wrong with thinking it’s good if it happens to certain very bad people. I suspect you have some people you’d think that of too. Maybe not, but most people do. Since I’m not acting on it, my judgment counts for essentially nothing. I don’t understand this strong reaction to it.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> anyone who fails to empathize with someone who makes tens of millions a year I’m not saying feel sorry for him. I’m not even saying don’t indulge in schadenfreude. Where you should know it crosses the line is in celebrating the killing and the killer. Because I promise you that someone with equal or more conviction in their righteousness would similarly take pleasure in the murder if someone you find, if not virtuous, not deserving to be murdered.

wat10000 2y ago
This sounds an awful lot like “don’t have opinions, because other people will have different opinions.” Ok, someone will take pleasure in the murder of someone I think doesn’t deserve it. So what? Obviously I don’t like that, but people think all kinds of stuff I don’t like. Why should this particular opinion change mine? Virtually everyone would take pleasure in someone’s murder. Osama bin Laden, say. Hitler, if we were in a different time and he hadn’t done the job himself. There are some people so principled they really wouldn’t feel that way for anyone, but for most of us it’s just a question of who falls into that category. Is has been a little surprising to find out that so many Americans consider this guy to be worthy, but just a little.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > sounds an awful lot like “don’t have opinions, because other people will have different opinions.” Not at all. Our healthcare system is corrupt. That doesn’t excuse murder. Bin Laden was offed by a state. Depending on your morals, that is or isn’t different. But those who equate a serial killer with a soldier are in the stark, stark minority. > little surprising to find out that so many Americans consider this guy to be worthy Worthy of wealth != worthy of life. If you think you can judge life or death for other humans, sure, fine. We are very, very different people.
  - wat10000 2y ago
    Sorry, who’s the serial killer and who’s the soldier in this equation? I don't plan on going out and killing anyone, but I don’t see what’s wrong with thinking it’s good if it happens to certain very bad people. I suspect you have some people you’d think that of too. Maybe not, but most people do. Since I’m not acting on it, my judgment counts for essentially nothing. I don’t understand this strong reaction to it.