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to be clear, Japan killed millions of chinese citizens and started a biological weapons laboratory with gruesome human experiments near harbin (unit 731 command

to be clear, Japan killed millions of chinese citizens and started a biological weapons laboratory with gruesome human experiments near harbin (unit 731 commanded by gen. ishii). it is likely these medical and scientific results were given to the US to avoid trial of 731 members at the tokyo tribunal. imperial japan was like the nazis. japan complaining about naval maneuvers pales in comparison. imperialists often continue to harbor resentment of those they attacked and lost against. china is supposed to be a subject, not an equal in their minds.

Teever 2y ago
If Germany, France, Britian, and Poland can become allies and tightly integrated economic partners with open boarders after that exact same conflict why can't Japan and China do the same?
- baq 2y ago
  China does not do alliances in that sense. China has a century-long (or even longer) world domination plan which it methodically realizes and are on a demographic clock to get it done. As a non-China country, you’re either a tool or an obstacle; never an ally.
- __turbobrew__ 2y ago
  China and Japan have vastly different political systems. You have to remember that East Germany and Poland were both communist governments up until quite recently and during that time they were not allies with Germany and France. The USA also brokered peace in Europe by providing military security and access to the largest free trade market in the world. It was a pretty good deal for European countries. This may be pure speculation, but it also appears that China and Japan are culturally further apart than European countries.
rat87 2y ago
Japanese war crimes are in the past. They are real and significant. You could claim the apologies Japan offered to China are undermined by incidents of nationalists denying the crimes(compare to Germany's apologies which are often considered to be among the better ones) or the reparations offered were not enough(china turned them down). I think that can be debated. But Japan isn't doing anything today. Japan is for all of its faults a liberal democratic country with no interest in conquering anyone. China is an authoritarian dictatorship getting worse (under the later years of Xi) and threatening imperialist actions especially against the independent nation of Taiwan(some parallels to Russia getting worse under later years of Putin and starting an imperialist war against Ukraine).

Teever 2y ago

If Germany, France, Britian, and Poland can become allies and tightly integrated economic partners with open boarders after that exact same conflict why can't Japan and China do the same?

baq 2y ago
China does not do alliances in that sense. China has a century-long (or even longer) world domination plan which it methodically realizes and are on a demographic clock to get it done. As a non-China country, you’re either a tool or an obstacle; never an ally.
__turbobrew__ 2y ago
China and Japan have vastly different political systems. You have to remember that East Germany and Poland were both communist governments up until quite recently and during that time they were not allies with Germany and France. The USA also brokered peace in Europe by providing military security and access to the largest free trade market in the world. It was a pretty good deal for European countries. This may be pure speculation, but it also appears that China and Japan are culturally further apart than European countries.

rat87 2y ago

Japanese war crimes are in the past. They are real and significant. You could claim the apologies Japan offered to China are undermined by incidents of nationalists denying the crimes(compare to Germany's apologies which are often considered to be among the better ones) or the reparations offered were not enough(china turned them down). I think that can be debated. But Japan isn't doing anything today. Japan is for all of its faults a liberal democratic country with no interest in conquering anyone. China is an authoritarian dictatorship getting worse (under the later years of Xi) and threatening imperialist actions especially against the independent nation of Taiwan(some parallels to Russia getting worse under later years of Putin and starting an imperialist war against Ukraine).