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This and also I don't want a tumor on the back of my phone. Can we go back to flat bodies at the expense of camera quality? For some of us phone cameras are rea
by abraxas 2y ago
This and also I don't want a tumor on the back of my phone. Can we go back to flat bodies at the expense of camera quality? For some of us phone cameras are really not _that_ important.
- maxweylandt 2y agoAlternatively, I'll take a thick lens, flush in a thick case, which might then make space for a thicker battery
- delusional 2y agoIf you're willing to compromise on your thicker battery, you can just get a case. My pixel 9 is essentially flat, and the battery life is plenty for a couple of days.
- ddejohn 2y agoTheir point is about battery life, and that a thicker phone is the compromise they're willing to make. They don't want a thicker phone just for the heck of it.
- ebiester 2y agoI think they are talking about a battery phone case somewhat like the Alpatronix Battery Case (if you want to look around - I just found one at random.)
- mitthrowaway2 2y agoThat's probably going to provide a lot less battery than just increasing the phone thickness, wouldn't it? There's a lot of redundant layers of encapsulation in that approach.
- delusional 2y agoI actually understand his comment to be primarily about wanting a thicker phone such that there is no camera bump. The possibility of a bigger battery is then a secondary benefit. Either way, my point is that with a case the pixel 9 is mostly flat, and has a battery life that I can't complain about. How big the battery is physically is unimportant to me. Logically it's big enough.
- LorenDB 2y agoThe Redmagic gaming phones fit that description. You can kinda see it here: https://gsmarena.com/nubia_red_magic_10_pro-review-2771p2.php https://gsmarena.com/nubia_red_magic_10_pro-review-2771p2.ph...
- ghaff 2y agoI think for most people, better cameras are one of the selling points of a premium phone. I even know pretty serious photographers (which at one point included myself) who don't generally travel with standalone cameras for most purposes any longer.
- Nullabillity 2y agoI'm going to go out on a limb and say that "serious photographers" are a pretty tiny minority of phone owners.
- ghaff 2y agoProbably. But, if I look at Apple's advertising, takes better photos and video seems to be a pretty big part of what they're selling. (OK, AI on the new models.)
- eigenspace 2y agoA better camera is the only reason to buy a new phone. If you don't want that, you can just buy a 5 year old or more phone and be just as happier.
- mitthrowaway2 2y agoWhat about security updates?
- rchaud 2y agoAs long as apps are kept up to date, I'm not sure that OS-level security updates make much of a difference. Most breaches happen due to malicious apps. I haven't heard of any cases where somebody cracked the OS security and accessed user data. Most of the world is not using the latest version of Android, and you don't really hear about viruses/malware like we used to with Windows machines in the '90s and '00s.
- yonatan8070 2y ago> I haven't heard of any cases where somebody cracked the OS security and accessed user data. https://www.spiceworks.com/it-security/endpoint-security/news/researchers-expose-apple-bluetooth-vulnerability-defcon/ https://www.spiceworks.com/it-security/endpoint-security/new...
- tanewishly 2y agoThere are security bugs which allow hacking older Android phones invisibly, via sms or mms. I'm not entirely sure what Android version you need to avoid such problems; probably north of 8.
- eigenspace 2y agoThere's also lots of modern budget phones that are using 5 year old processors, shitty cameras but modern OS support.
- mihaaly 2y agoYou can't. It will loose OS support in seconds! Then next update of your essential app will stop working as it needs the newer OS. Also the battery is fused to the screen or what and cannot keep up with the AI assisted emojis needs coming in with a random software update.
- mattlondon 2y agoNope. Strong no from me - camera is the reason I upgrade (beyond dead battery). I agree the lens bulges are a pain in the arse, but I want a good camera. You can buy low-end phones with minimal bump from the likes of Motorola and Nokia if cameras are not important to you. But I want my higher-end (not necessarily premium, but in that direction) phones to keep coming with better and better cameras please, and if that means a bit of a bulge then fine.
- teitoklien 2y agoMost women I know buy the higher end phones for its cameras simply to take better selfies of themselves, they dont game (not stereotype, just stats in my region), they just use their phone for watching videos, listening to music, phone calling and most importantly take a gazillion photos each week. So nearly 50% of the demographic is buying those phones simply for the camera, and a big screen, nothing else. I’ve noticed its typically just men (including me), who dont care about the camera much at all, and just want a normie phone that can run most apps.
- switch007 2y agoThe selfie camera is on the front though
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- switch007 2y agoAnd in 2024 can't software make up for fewer/thinner lenses for the average use case?
- bigstrat2003 2y agoYes please. The camera on my phone is there to be serviceable, not amazing. If I wanted that I would get a separate camera.