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Apple sued for abandoning on-device CSAM monitoring tech in 2021
- IndrekR 2y agohttps://archive.ph/1xCvh https://archive.ph/1xCvh
- ThePowerOfFuet 2y agoAfter a dozen ReCaptcha challenges in a row, I gave up. Thanks anyway.
- nimish 2y agoSued for providing false hope? Why is that lawsuit worthy?
- Manuel_D 2y agoSo they wouldn't have been sued if they just never pursued on device monitoring in the first place? Or is this going to be a new requirement for all smartphones moving forward?
- Aloisius 2y agoRegardless of the merits of the suit, you really couldn’t ask for worse PR. I don’t know if it’ll be enough to pressure Apple into complying given the backlash that caused them to abandon device scanning in the first place.
- rdm_blackhole 2y agoThey won't have to do anything. They will let the EU force their hand on the issue via Chat Control and then claim they have no choice but to comply.
- rdm_blackhole 2y agoI am sorry for the victims of abuse but this lawsuit is nonsensical. There is plenty of bad things happening inside people's homes, should we start putting cameras in every home on the planet to deter these crimes? I mean where does it stop?
- palata 2y agoThose people probably believe that it is possible to put cameras in every home in a fundamentally privacy-preserving way...
- SSchick 2y agoThis suit seems to be in bad-faith. Apple actively pursuited this tech but that backlash from the general population due to privacy concerns was simply too high, so they made a business decision to respect peoples privacy (and their bottom line at that). I feel for the victims of child abuse but forcing device manufacturers to monitor everyone without warrant is an enormous violation of privacy.
- CharlesW 2y ago> …so they made a business decision to respect peoples privacy (and their bottom line at that). For the record, Apple abandoned this on-device technique because of bad press, even though it would've been more privacy-preserving than the in-cloud scanning that virtually all image hosts do today.
- JoshTriplett 2y ago> even though it would've been more privacy-preserving than the in-cloud scanning that virtually all image hosts do today You can opt out of in-cloud scanning by not using the cloud, or selecting a different service.
- CharlesW 2y agoThat would have still been true, since photos not destined for iCloud Photos were not scanned.
- JoshTriplett 2y agoThere is no fundamental property of the technology that ensures that. Once the capability exists, how long do you think that'd stay true?
- CharlesW 2y agoIt exists now, since the tech was repurposed for Apple’s Communication Safety (scanning for all nudity, not just CSAM): https://www.apple.com/child-safety/ https://www.apple.com/child-safety/ How do you validate that your OS, your apps, and other actors in your image/video processing and storage supply chains aren't doing surreptitious CSAM scanning? I have no idea. All I know is that Apple is being sued for not doing it.
- bitbasher 2y agoThere's a part of me thinking the lawsuit was pushed forward by government plants in hopes of getting Apple to revisit the tech.
- palata 2y agoLet me start with this: I believe that the suit makes no sense. The problem is that those people see a real problem (CSAM), want a solution to it, but are not open to the fact that there may not be an acceptable solution. Usually because they don't understand the solution and go with "I don't care how it's done; we are in 2024, it should be possible".
- strogonoff 2y agoFor all the people blaming big government’s surveillance intent for Apple’s CSAM scanning initiative, here is a lawsuit by the actual victims, and yet the techbro crowd still finds ways to paint it as pure surveillance and to avoid responsibility for the harm and suffering e2ee platforms enable and profit from.