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"Even various actions of Russia wrt Ukranians have been declared war crimes and crimes against humanity." yes that's because Ukraine doesn't build munitions de

by exe34 2y ago

"Even various actions of Russia wrt Ukranians have been declared war crimes and crimes against humanity." yes that's because Ukraine doesn't build munitions depots under schools and hospitals. remember when Israel was said to have bombed a hospital, it turned out the rocket came from hamas, was launched from the hospital and landed in the parking lot. a lot of the stories that you read online are basically made up, or greatly exaggerated, but you seem very keen to believe them if a Jew can be claimed to have been implicated.

defrost 2y ago
> but you seem very keen to believe them .. Really? I've made no statement here other than to assert that several events have been officially declared as genocides in the past decade. This is a factually true assertion. You can verify that each of the events has been declared as such for yourself by checking the official UN statements on each. If you disagree with their declarations about, for instance, the Rohingya genocide then you can write a strong letter disagreeing with their lengthy report. It remains a fact that each event listed above has been described as a genocide by multiple counties, humanitarian groups, the UN, etc.
- exe34 2y ago
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  - defrost 2y ago
    It's unclear what this has to do with my rebuttal of your statement: > and for some reason it's only a genocide when one loses a war against Israel. Clearly there are numerous officially declared genocides other than the one you seem fixated upon. > you seem very keen to believe them if a Jew can be claimed to have been implicated. > so that people like you will condemn Israel for existing and defending themselves. You're blinding painting with a broad brush here, I'm a little more specific than a general cartoon dislike of Israel and Jews. Eugene Finkel, a Jewish Holocaust scholar, declared Russian actions wrt Ukraine to be genocidal and went into some detail. His criteria for that declaration, when applied to the actions of the current government of Israel, make the same case against Isareli actions in Gaza. * https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-bucha-war-crimes-genocide-b2050897.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-buch... * https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2325804 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2... * https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2023/11/21/finkel-ukraine-gaza-russia-genocide-international-law/stories/202311210020 https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2023/11/21/finkel...
    - exe34 2y ago
      unwra has been working with hamas the whole time: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/world/middleeast/hamas-unrwa-schools.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/world/middleeast/hamas-un...

by exe34 2y ago

defrost 2y ago

> but you seem very keen to believe them .. Really? I've made no statement here other than to assert that several events have been officially declared as genocides in the past decade. This is a factually true assertion. You can verify that each of the events has been declared as such for yourself by checking the official UN statements on each. If you disagree with their declarations about, for instance, the Rohingya genocide then you can write a strong letter disagreeing with their lengthy report. It remains a fact that each event listed above has been described as a genocide by multiple counties, humanitarian groups, the UN, etc.

exe34 2y ago
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- defrost 2y ago
  It's unclear what this has to do with my rebuttal of your statement: > and for some reason it's only a genocide when one loses a war against Israel. Clearly there are numerous officially declared genocides other than the one you seem fixated upon. > you seem very keen to believe them if a Jew can be claimed to have been implicated. > so that people like you will condemn Israel for existing and defending themselves. You're blinding painting with a broad brush here, I'm a little more specific than a general cartoon dislike of Israel and Jews. Eugene Finkel, a Jewish Holocaust scholar, declared Russian actions wrt Ukraine to be genocidal and went into some detail. His criteria for that declaration, when applied to the actions of the current government of Israel, make the same case against Isareli actions in Gaza. * https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-bucha-war-crimes-genocide-b2050897.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-buch... * https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2325804 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2... * https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2023/11/21/finkel-ukraine-gaza-russia-genocide-international-law/stories/202311210020 https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2023/11/21/finkel...
  - exe34 2y ago
    unwra has been working with hamas the whole time: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/world/middleeast/hamas-unrwa-schools.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/world/middleeast/hamas-un...