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TFA says "Some ammunition can take out a helicopter ..." which is true enough. I merely pointed out that most anything can "take out a helicopter". Attachment
by giardini 2y ago
TFA says "Some ammunition can take out a helicopter ..." which is true enough. I merely pointed out that most anything can "take out a helicopter".
Attachment of this discussion to the Ukrainian conflict and DOD is your imagination.
Of course people can’t throw rocks as far as a firearm can shoot. But to state that "people can’t throw rocks anywhere near normal firearms distances" is contrary to most gunshot assault statistics, especially for handguns:
"The True Distance of a Typical Gunfight"
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/the-true-distance-of-a-typical-gunfight/ https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/the-true-distance-of-a-ty...
(tl;dr - 3 to 5 yards)
While a firearm can shoot farther and more accurately than most persons can throw a rock, human encounters usually occur at short ("rock-throwing" or less) distances. Most conflicts occur at distances correlated more with the range of the human voice than with the range of a firearm.
- acdha 2y agoTFA also specifically refers to military weaponry which is designed for the purpose of taking out equipment rather than a lucky shot. The reason I brought up Ukraine is that it’s the logical implication of your statement whether or not you recognize it: militaries don’t rely on luck, they want to stack the odds in their favor. What makes something military grade is that it can consistently perform that task, not relying on a soldier getting lucky. This is why asides about handgun distances aren’t relevant: in the context of taking out helicopters, we’re not talking about close quarters situations - 3-5 yards means people are getting hit by prop wash or the rotors themselves!
- giardini 2y agoApologies to all but acdha: just realized that, in this thread, I was speaking to the wrong end of the horse!8-((