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Going to be blunt. We can't keep this up every time a new bill appears. At some point, we are going to get exhausted and he will win. I think it is us who haven

by electic 14y ago

Going to be blunt. We can't keep this up every time a new bill appears. At some point, we are going to get exhausted and he will win. I think it is us who haven't learned anything. Instead of getting upset, we should be focused on funding his opponent and getting him out of office. He is going to do what he is going to do because his electorate is okay with it. UPVOTE this if you believe in changing things or DON't if you want to whine.

enko 14y ago
> UPVOTE this if you believe in changing things or DON't if you want to whine. Kindly leave that crap on Facebook.
- electic 14y ago
  No. I am sick of seeing these posts on here. Stop complaining over and over again. It is childish. If you don't like the bills coming across the line, put down your macbook pro, and go out and start making calls and getting people to vote differently. If you are here to complain on a weekly basis, then yea, take it to Facebook.
btilly 14y ago
If you try to tell me how to use my votes, I'll downvote you. As for your comment, in a perfect world that would be what we should do. But thanks to gerrymandering, he's never going to be voted out of office.
ihsw 14y ago
Trying to out-fund Lamar Smith will only escalate the battle (which we cannot win). We must instead focus on de-funding him much like Rush Limbaugh has been abandoned by his sponsors.
- rhizome 14y ago
  There are a lot of millionaires and billionaires in the business world discussed on HN. An organized lobbying effort could indeed be a contender against the forces motivating Mr. Smith. I read a story of a study in the last couple of years that calculated the lobbying cost of some big vote was in the very low 5-figures.
- maurits 14y ago
  This will fundamentally change nothing. You are basically using the same (money) tactics as the persons you oppose and therefore part of the problem of the entanglement of money and politics. The fact that you are "justified" or "right" in your political stance doesn't change that. Real change, I fear, will have to be sought in your elective processes. And it will undoubtedly be a long and painful process.

by electic 14y ago

enko 14y ago

> UPVOTE this if you believe in changing things or DON't if you want to whine. Kindly leave that crap on Facebook.

electic 14y ago
No. I am sick of seeing these posts on here. Stop complaining over and over again. It is childish. If you don't like the bills coming across the line, put down your macbook pro, and go out and start making calls and getting people to vote differently. If you are here to complain on a weekly basis, then yea, take it to Facebook.

btilly 14y ago

If you try to tell me how to use my votes, I'll downvote you. As for your comment, in a perfect world that would be what we should do. But thanks to gerrymandering, he's never going to be voted out of office.

ihsw 14y ago

Trying to out-fund Lamar Smith will only escalate the battle (which we cannot win). We must instead focus on de-funding him much like Rush Limbaugh has been abandoned by his sponsors.

rhizome 14y ago
There are a lot of millionaires and billionaires in the business world discussed on HN. An organized lobbying effort could indeed be a contender against the forces motivating Mr. Smith. I read a story of a study in the last couple of years that calculated the lobbying cost of some big vote was in the very low 5-figures.
maurits 14y ago
This will fundamentally change nothing. You are basically using the same (money) tactics as the persons you oppose and therefore part of the problem of the entanglement of money and politics. The fact that you are "justified" or "right" in your political stance doesn't change that. Real change, I fear, will have to be sought in your elective processes. And it will undoubtedly be a long and painful process.