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Hmm - we can't go on dissecting polls each day, but here's one (dating from January) which measure sentiment across 10 countries and along several key questions
by aguaviva 2y ago
Hmm - we can't go on dissecting polls each day, but here's one (dating from January) which measure sentiment across 10 countries and along several key questions:
https://ukandeu.ac.uk/how-strong-is-public-support-for-ukraine-in-europe/ https://ukandeu.ac.uk/how-strong-is-public-support-for-ukrai...
If the poll were taken today, the percentages would probably shift a bit on some of these questions. But what's more interesting is the spread across the 10 countries.
Notice that Italy and Hungary tend to sit more on the "doomer/skeptic" side (in accord with the poll you offered in regard to Italy's sentiment), while countries like the UK, Finalnd and the Baltics are more on the "there's still hope" side. And Germany seems to fight right in the middle.
Which suggests that no, the average European does not simply think Ukraine is a lost cause.
The average European believes that Ukraine cannot win the war (meaning getting back their 1991 territories), but that's also a reality and the opinion shared by analysts, and is honestly tired of it. ... It's hard to be a die hard supporter for Zelenskis official line.
Well that's obviously no longer Zelenskyy's position, right?
Also, you're setting up a false dichotomy here -- either the (now basically collapsed) "die-hard" position, or the "Ukraine is lost cause" position.
My observations indicate that the median sentiment falls somewhere between these extremes.
- epolanski 2y agoOT why is your comment history all about politics and mostly Russia? It's odd for a startup/tech oriented board.
- aguaviva 2y agoOT why is your comment history all about politics and mostly Russia? It's not "all about politics". You could have said "Why is it mostly about ...?" and the question would have had an entirely different ring to it. But the wording you chose was weird and distracting, so I don't think I'll be able invest much time in answering. Other than to say: I respond mostly to muddled thinking and misinformation (and in some cases outright disinformation). Which not coincidentally seems to bubble forth continuously from posts referencing that country (and a certain other one). Which also tend to appear in bursts, as we have seen. So the intent is to keep the conversation at least borderline reality-centered. And hence, per the site guidelines, more "interesting". (Not that your post is in this category. I just think you're probably mistaken). In that sense the interest isn't even all that "political" as such. It's more psychological and cognitive. It's odd for a startup/tech oriented board. It's not specifically startup/tech-oriented. Check the guidelines again. I have an interest in tech also, but am also rather burned out on it. The more powerful it gets, the more boring it gets, somehow.