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Voter fraud is exceedingly rare in the US: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5147732/voter-fraud-explainer https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5147732/voter

by oooyay 2y ago

Voter fraud is exceedingly rare in the US: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5147732/voter-fraud-explainer https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5147732/voter-fraud-exp... I understand it was used as a talking point by a certain person in this last election, but it was only a talking point - not truth. > Today, these shows are composed of 95% FFLs anyway, all of whom perform background checks I have been to a gun show recently. We can, and should, close that 5% gap. An FFL is an intermediary and the ATF doesn't retain records about transactions they do by law. FFLs will maintain their own records, but they're no some widely searchable database (which is what people fear in an Orwellian sense).

15155 2y ago
> We can, and should, close that 5% gap. Good luck getting compliance without a formal registry.. oh wait.
- oooyay 2y ago
  There is no federal registry, that's why the FFL system exists. They track who they did transactions with and if the federal government needs to know about a transaction they can approach the FFL holders. The system works as designed to preserve privacy while also providing some amount of traceability. All that needs to happen is the prohibition of private sale outside of an FFL. From there you can penalize gun shows that allow non-FFL holders to sell. As I said earlier, there's not a good reason not to transact through an FFL. They're charged with maintaining your privacy as a purchaser while simultaneously preventing strawman purchases. They're a very basic extension of nearly every pawn broker.
  - 15155 2y ago
    Yeah, I'll just never comply and I won't be surprised when SCOTUS shuts this down entirely. The onus is on the state to prove unlawful transfer: I don't have to say anything whatsoever. Thankfully, home manufacturing (a protected activity) of firearms is becoming cheap, simple and effective via 3D printing and machining - this is already a SCOTUS-affirmed, historically-legal activity. What's next, regulating CNC machines and 3D printers?

by oooyay 2y ago

15155 2y ago

> We can, and should, close that 5% gap. Good luck getting compliance without a formal registry.. oh wait.

oooyay 2y ago
There is no federal registry, that's why the FFL system exists. They track who they did transactions with and if the federal government needs to know about a transaction they can approach the FFL holders. The system works as designed to preserve privacy while also providing some amount of traceability. All that needs to happen is the prohibition of private sale outside of an FFL. From there you can penalize gun shows that allow non-FFL holders to sell. As I said earlier, there's not a good reason not to transact through an FFL. They're charged with maintaining your privacy as a purchaser while simultaneously preventing strawman purchases. They're a very basic extension of nearly every pawn broker.
- 15155 2y ago
  Yeah, I'll just never comply and I won't be surprised when SCOTUS shuts this down entirely. The onus is on the state to prove unlawful transfer: I don't have to say anything whatsoever. Thankfully, home manufacturing (a protected activity) of firearms is becoming cheap, simple and effective via 3D printing and machining - this is already a SCOTUS-affirmed, historically-legal activity. What's next, regulating CNC machines and 3D printers?